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-It's a need.
I have a great need to make art.

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I can't explain it.

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All I know is,
is that desperate need.

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♪♪

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The painting can't give
the viewer anything

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unless the viewer has something
to give the painting

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and can emotionally connect
with passion

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and a kind of sophistication
and a depth of knowledge

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and hurt and love
and passion and longing.

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All those things
are in each painting.

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And if you haven't got anything
in your little soul,

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you're not going to get anything
out of the paintings.

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I'm not going to tell them
what to think.

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The paintings have to stand
on their own

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when I'm alive now
and when I'm gone.

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I make paintings because...

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they're waiting for me.

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♪♪

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I'm not getting older.

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[ Chuckles ]

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I'm the best I've ever been.

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I don't want to be
a Northwest painter.

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I don't want to be known
as a Northwest artist.

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The purples are fabulous.

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And the blues are adequate.

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Color has a voice
and it's not an audible voice.

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There's no words, but it talks
to you, and it leads me.

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I follow my nose.
Oh, look at that there.

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Off I go.
This one is really gorgeous,

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but it's really hard to make
it work with anything else.

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Colorist is a person that
is very aware of color

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and color
doesn't baffle them.

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It intrigues them, and they --
they hunt it down ruthlessly.

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And they seek the relationships
and what it will do.

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The color really isn't a color

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until it's next
to another color.

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-Oh, my God. Look.
[ Gasps ]

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This is gorgeous.

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Look at the orange.

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See. Look at that.

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-These are two
complementary colors.

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I never wanted to admit
I had a favorite

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because I thought that was...

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pretty mundane,
but I have a favorite.

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Oh, this is my favorite
of the whole bunch

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of all the colors
in the whole world,

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The whole bloody world,
I'm afraid to admit.

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that's my favorite one.
That damn magenta.

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My favorite machine in the world
is a trolley on Capitol Hill.

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And it's magenta.

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It's a beautiful,
smooth, magenta,

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sleek, beautiful thing.
And it moves down the street.

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The first time
I saw those trolleys,

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I stopped in my tracks
and said, "Oh, my God."

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♪♪

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Think of me this way.

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Every time you see me,
you think

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that this is on my face.

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Are these --
Are these fluorescents

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or are they just strong color?

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-There are some
fluorescents there.

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-Are there?
-There are...

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-Hot pink and yellow.
-Yeah.

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-Like a --

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All the fluorescents
are the bad boys of color.

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I love them.
I love them, love them.

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They're the greasy,

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the macho men
in beautiful clothes.

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They are mmm!

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-That's anything
that's fluorescent is --

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will be like that.
I think I like that.

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-The reason I'm not painting
on this video is because...

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there's nothing they can learn

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about the secrets of my art

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when I'm painting because all
the secrets of my art

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are inside.

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And you can't see inside of me.

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♪♪

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Yes. Yes.

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All my pieces are sensual,
not erotic,

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but all of them are sensual.
Everything I've ever done.

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I trick the eye by visually
putting one color

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or one space
in front of the other space.

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And it's a thing
I don't mean to do,

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but I love it when it happens,
and I know when it happens.

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And so you see the space.

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For example, you think
this space way back here is deep

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because dark is always
for the vacuum.

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We know that.

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And then you have
something lighter,

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but then all of a sudden --

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it's just a stupid piece
of board, you guys --

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and all of a sudden
it's not flat.

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It's -- it's got depth to it.

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All of a sudden,
you go way back in here

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and then all of a sudden --
boing-oing-oing-oing-oing --

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bring it right back up

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front and center
with that light color.

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POW!
There it is.

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And then I can push you
over the edge

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and get you way back in there.
I can drag you along.

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I can make you come
almost forward, but not quite.

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And if, oh, God, look,
it's transparent,

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I'm going back into it.
Ooh, I'm being sucked in.

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Oh, no, I'm back.

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No, I fallen back way
deep into it again.

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And now I've
come up forward and,

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oh, I'm out, I'm out, I'm free.
Oh, I'm falling through again.

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And then you're into the depth
into the black

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and you're in a space.

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It's actual visual places
in -- in -- in space.

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But we all know
it's just a stupid board.

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Yes. Lovely.
Oh, my God.

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I want to make
a great big one, you see.

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-Oh, yeah. Huh.
-Nice and huge.

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-Yeah.
Two exactly the same size

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would be great.
-Okay.

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-Watch this.

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The things that you don't know
are the most intriguing.

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Because then you can make up
what you think it could be

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or there's an unending joy in
finding what it actually means

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or what it could mean or what
it never did mean and might.

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You're getting a lot
of information out of me

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that I've never
verbalized before

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because painters don't have to.

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They paint it.
They say it that way.

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See? Complicated as hell.
Have a jelly bean.

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Quit talking about it
and have one.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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Find my pastels?

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-Oh, yeah.
-Good.

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Whoo, my flowers.

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We need to photograph
those two big ones

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and the two small --
three small ones.

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I've always kind of been
outspoken as a young woman.

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That's forbidden, you know?

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Young man, it's okay.

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You can't live
in the past because

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you're living in the present
thinking about the past.

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And what good
is that doing you?

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It is my life, my breathing
in and out right now.

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That's what it is.
It's all about that.

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That's all there is.

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That's all there is --
now.

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I don't want it to stop.

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I want it all
to be as exhilarating

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and as exciting and as colorful
and as filthy, chalky,

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messy as it can be.

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Love it.

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♪♪

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It's remarkable to be alive.

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[ Music stops ]

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Breathing in and breathing out
is remarkable.

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