GOOD MORNING THE DECEMBER 8TH
MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.
IT IS 9:31 A.M.
I'M DAN STRAUSS.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> HERE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA?
PRESENT.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> PRESENT.
>> FIVE PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU.
WE BEGIN OUR LAND USE COMMITTEE
WITH THE LAND OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
THIS IS A TIME FOR REFLECTION
AND PAUSE BEFORE WE ENDEAVOR IN
OUR BUSINESS.
IT IS IMPORTANT WE DON'T LET
THESE WORDS BECOME ROGUE
BEHAVIOR OR SOMETHING WE SAY TO
SAVE THEM AND LET US DO WHATEVER
WE WANT TO DO CAUSE WE SAID SOME
NICE WORDS.
THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE -- WE
PAUSE AND REFLECT ABOUT LAND AND
PEOPLE BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAND
USE COMMITTEE.
SO WE BEGIN WITH THE CITY OF
SEATTLE LAND USE COMMITTEE BY
ACKNOWLEDGING WE ARE ON THE
TRADITIONAL AND ANCESTRAL LANDS
OF THE FIRST PEOPLE OF THIS
REGION PAST AND PRESENT.
WE HONOR WITH GRATITUDE THE LAND
AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS LAND.
WE START WITH THIS
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE
FACT WE ARE GUESTS, OUR TIME ON
EARTH IS SHORT, OUR TIME IN
THESE POSITIONS OF DECISION
MAKING ARE SHORT.
WE MUST STEWART OUR WORK AS
GUESTS SO WE CAN LEAD TO LEAVE
BECAUSE WE WON'T BE HERE
FOREVER.
THE ACTIONS WE MAKE NOW WILL
IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO COME AFTER
US.
THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO
START WITH ACKNOWLEDGING -- THE
FIRST PEOPLE OF THIS REGION PAST
AND PRESENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE
SET UP WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
SO AGAIN TAKING THIS MOMENT TO
HAVE A REFLECTION BEFORE WE
DEVINER ON OUR DERN DEFER --
ENDEAVOR IN OUR WORK ON LAND
USE.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND
VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL 1201026.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND
VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL 120129.
WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND
VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL 120214
WHICH AMENDS THE SEATTLE CODE TO
IMPLEMENT THE NAME CHANGE TO
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE A BRIEFING AND VOTE ON
COUNCIL BILL 120235.
WE HAVE A REPORT FROM SDCI AND
OSE.
THIS IS THE FINAL SCHEDULED
MEETING OF THE LAND USE AND
NEIGHBOR HOODS COMMITTEE BEFORE
THE COUNCIL REORGANIZES IN THE
NEW YEAR.
THIS IS THE END OF THE BUY IN T
TWO YEAR CYCLE.
WE WILL GET GOING.
BEFORE WE BEGIN IF THERE IS
THOUGH OBJECTION THE DANGER WILL
BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE DANGER
IS OPENED.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S
DANGER.
IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO --
PUBLIC
HEARING BUT YOU ARE IN PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
PLEASE BE PATIENT AS WE LEARN TO
OPERATE THIS SYSTEM REALTIME.
WHILE IT REMAINS OUR STRONG
INTENT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT
REGULARLY INCLUDED IN MEETING
DANGERS, THE CITY COUNCIL
RESERVES THE RIGHT TO END OR
ELIMINATE THESE PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIODS AT ANY POINT IF WE DEEM
THIS IS UNSUIT -- UNSUITABLE.
I WILL MODERATE THE PUBLIC
COMMENT IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS UP
TO 10 MINUTES AND I WILL GIVE
EACH SPEAKER TWO MINUTES TO
SPEAK.
I WILL CALL ON EACH SPEAKER BY
NAME.
IF YOU HAVE NOT YET REGISTERED
AND WOULD LIKE SPEAK YOU CAN GO
TO THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE BEFORE
THE END OF THIS MEETING.
SORRY, I JUST LOST MY PLACE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS
CORRECT.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT
LINK IS LISTED ON TODAY'S
AGENDA.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE CUE YOU HAVE
TO PRESS STAR 6, NOT POUND 6.
PLEASE BEGIN BY SPEAK BY STATING
YOUR NAME.
ONCE THE SPEAKER HEARS THE CHIME
WE ASK YOU PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED
YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK YOU
PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE.
IF YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE
FOLLOWING THIS MEETING PLEASE DO
SO VIA THE CHANNEL OR LISTENING
OPTIONS ON THE DANGER.
PLEASE REMEMBER THERE ARE
SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
ITEMS 1, 3, AND 4 RELATING TO
MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS AND THE
WEST POINT TREATMENT FACILITY
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL
NAME CHANGE.
IF YOUR COMMENTS RELATE TO ONE
OF THOSE ITEMS PLEASE SAVE THEM
FOR THE APPROPRIATE PUBLIC
HEARING.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW
OPENED AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT I SEE
HOLLY TOWNS, STEVE -- I SEE DEB
BARKER FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND
RICHARD ALSO FOR ITEM
NUMBER FOUR.
WE WILL PROBABLY CALL ON YOU TO
SEE WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.
FIRST THREE FOLKS UP HOLLY,
STEVE AND SUZANNE.
I SEE YOU THERE.
PRESS STAR 6.
NOT POUND 6.
LETS BRING STEVE UP JUST TO KEEP
US MOVING.
STEVE, YOU ARE UP.
PRESS STAR 6.
I SEE HOLLY IS FINALLY OFF MUTE.
STEVE HANG ON A SECOND.
HOLLY GOOD MORNING.
TAKE IT AWAY.
HOLLY, YOU ARE OFF MUTE NOW.
YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE ON YOUR
PHONE.
THERE WE GO.
ONE MORE TIME, HOLLY.
ALL RIGHT.
LETS -- MOVE TON STEVE.
HOLLY, IF YOU COME OFF MUTE JUST
HANG TIGHT UNTIL STEVE IS DONE
AND THEN WE WILL TAKE YOU UP.
STEVE, PLEASE STAR 6.
HAVING TROUBLE WITH
HOLLY AND STEVE.
SUZANNE GOOD MORNING.
STAR 6.
>> HELLO.
THIS IS SIZE PLAN.
>> GOOD MORNING, SUZANNE.
TAKE IT AWAY.
>> I WILL TAKE IT AWAY.
I AM ADDRESS DANGER NUMBER SIX.
SDCI WE ARE WONDERING WHY WE DO
NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO SAVE
OUR TREES.
YOUR WORD GETS OLD AS THE TREES
ARE SOLD.
YOU ARE MAKING LOTS OF MONEY OFF
DEVELOPER'S FEES.
THE PERMITS KEEP ON SELLING THEY
KEEP CUTTING OUR TREES.
HAVE YOU NO --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
HOW CAN YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?
YOU NEVER LOOK INTO THE FUTURE
THROUGH YOUR CHILDREN'S EYES?
TIRES BURNING HOT, CITIES
WITHOUT TREES, BUT CLIMATE IS
CHANGING AND N OUR LIFETIME
WHILE YOU ARE TELLING LIES.
KNOWING THE TREES YOU ARE
CUTTING DOWN COULD BE SAVING
LIVES.
TEND EXEMPTIONS.
IMPLEMENT ALL URBAN FORESTRY
COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS
PLEASE.
TREE REQUIREMENTS, RESTORE THEM
TO A MINIMUM OF TWOS INCHES FOR
EVERY 1,000 SQUARE FEET OF TREE
AREA.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE -- IT SHOULD
NOT BE -- THERE THERE SHOULD
ALWAYS BE NO TREE REDUCTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SUZANNE.
BEAUTIFUL.
I'M LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT
ALBUM.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN IT IS
COMING OUT AND IT WILL BE THERE
TO GET IT SIGNED.
HOLLY, GOOD MORNING.
YOU WANT TO PRESS STAR 6.
IF YOU ARE STILL HAVING TROUBLE
WE CAN CALL DAVID IN.
STEVE, I'M SEEING YOU NOT
PRESENT.
TRY CALLING BACK IF YOU ARE
HAVING TROUBLE.
HOLLY, ARE YOU ABLE TO COME OFF
MUTE?
I DON'T SEE HOLLY COMING OFF
MUTE.
MAYBE CAN YOU PROMOTE DAVID
HAYNES?
DAVID HAYNES?
GOOD MORNING.
THERE HE IS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU.
>> YEAH.
GOOD MORNING.
>> 24TH CENTURY FIRST WORLD
QUALITY HOUSING IS WHAT YOUNGER
GENERATION NEED.
THE HOUSE BILL AT 801 16TH
AVENUE ON A CORNER LOT
WITH MUCH MORE TRAFFIC SINCE
1909 ORIGINALLY MEANT FOR A
SINGLE FAMILY HAS BEEN PATCH
WORKED, FIXED IN 1937 AS A
DUPLEX FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
GOD KNOWS WHAT THEY DID IN
THERE.
AGAIN IN 1941, IN 1951.
ALL WITH ADD ON S.
THEN REMODELLED IN 1984.
THIS HOUSE VIOLATES THE
INTEGRITY AND SHOULDN'T BE
PRESERVED.
ITS OFFENSIVE TO THE TASTE AND
REMINDER OF SEATTLE'S NOTORIOUS
EMBELLISHMENT AND ICONIC
MISINTERPRETATION --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
SEATTLE ONLY PRESERVES
SLUMS --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
STILL CHEATING THE PEOPLE
OUT OF ANY AND ALL 21ST CENTURY
HOUSING CHOICES.
IT IS ANOTHER RENTAL AND
INFLATED OBSOLETE FLAW DESIGN
CAUSE G
CAUSING MENTAL CRISIS --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
IT IS ABUSING HOUSING MARKET.
THE HOUSE SOLD IN 1988 FOR
$194,000.
NOW DEMOCRATS WANT TO HELP A
SPECULATOR SECURE A VALUE OF
$2.4 MILLION ARTIFICIALLY
SUGGESTED PRICE.
TAKE 0 OFF PROPERTY VALUES WOULD
BE MORE REASONABLE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU, DAVID.
ALWAYS GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU.
HOLLY TOWNS.
GIVE IT A TRY ONE MORE TIME.
WE WILL TRY MORE TIMES BUT --
TRY ANOTHER TIME.
IF YOU ABLE TO PRESS STAR 6
IT WILL TAKE YOU OFF OF MUTE,
NOT POUND 6.
IF YOU HAVE A HEAD SET IT MIGHT
BE WHY WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU
BEFORE.
HOLLY?
ALL RIGHT.
IF WE COULD PROMOTE STEVE.
I SEE HE'S BACK TO PRESENT.
STEVE, THERE YOU ARE.
STAR 6.
GREAT.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS STEVE SPEAKING FOR TREE
PACT.
>> HELLO.
THIS IS --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
HI.
>> HANG ON REAL QUICK.
THANKS FOR RESETTING THE TIMER.
HOLLY -- HANG TIGHT A SECOND.
WE WILL LET STEVE SPEAK AND THEN
YOU WILL GO.
>> OKAY.
YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW.
OKAY.
>> I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
YEAH.
>> OKAY.
I WILL BE QUIET.
>> THANKS.
GOOD MORNING, STEVE.
WE HAVE RESET YOUR TIMER AND
PLEASE FEEL FREE TAKE IT AWAY.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS STEVE.
I'M CHAIR OF TREE PACT AND I
WANT TO SAY THAT WE AS AN
ORGANIZATION ARE DISAPPOINTED IN
THE EFFORT SO FAR.
NO DRAFT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN
AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND
WE QUESTION HOW YOU CAN DO A
DETERMINATION OF NON-CIG THIF
CANS WITHOUT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC
TO FIRST REVIEW A DRAFT AND LOOK
AT THE IMPACTS.
WE TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE
DRAFT BE AVAILABLE FOR ABOUT TWO
WEEKS AS USUAL.
WE FEEL VERY LITTLE OUTREACH WAS
DONE BY SDCI AND OSE THIS
REACHING PEOPLE.
THEY HELD LISTENING SESSIONS
WITH 29 PEOPLE AND TRIED TO DRAW
CONCLUSIONS ON SOME MAJOR ISSUES
LIKE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE
PERMIT TO REMOVE SIGNIFICANT
TREES.
MEANWHILE THE -- TREE PACT ALONG
WITH THE NORTHWEST PROGRESSIVE
INSTITUTE HAS -- A POLL THAT WE
DID THAT SHOWED THAT -- WE DID
WITH 617 PEOPLE WITH THE 4.3%
MARGIN OF ERROR.
HIT A 2-1 MARGIN, 57%
SUPPORTING, 28 OPPOSING.
15% NOT SURE.
ALSO INCREASING PROTECTION FOR
SIGNIFICANT EXCEPTIONAL TREES
POLLED 78%, 13% IN OPPOSITION.
AND ADDING REPLACEMENT
REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNIFICANT
EXCEPTIONAL TREES HOLDS 76
FOREST 13%.
WE THINK THE POLL SHOWS THE
PUBLIC SUPPORT OUT THERE FOR
THIS EFFORT AND YOU NEED TO
LISTEN TO IT.
WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO
WE ALSO DID A CHANGE.ORG
OUTREACH.
SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC
AND CREATE A STRONG ORDINANCE.
THAT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, STEVE.
ALWAYS APPRECIATE HEARING FROM
YOU.
HOLLY.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS HOLLY TOWNS.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE 43RD
DISTRICT DEMOCRATS ENVIRONMENTAL
CAUCUS AND ACTIVE MEMBER OF
SHIFT 0.
I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE
ENERGY CODE AMENDMENT BUT I'M
REALLY CALLING TODAY TO SPEAK TO
YOU ABOUT THE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD
MORE AGGRESSIVELY ON ADDRESSING
CLIMATE CHANGE IN EXISTING
BUILDINGS WHICH CONTRIBUTE FAR
MORE GREENHOUSE GASES THAN NEW
BUILDINGS.
I URGE YOU TO START WORKING
BEHIND THE SCENES ON HOW TO
ADDRESS THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
THERE IS LOTS OF EXCELLENT
RESOURCES AND SUPPORT IN OUR
CITY AND PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP.
THERE ARE OTHER CITIES WHO ARE
STEPPING FORWARD NOW AND NOW IT
IS TIME FOR SEATTLE.
YOU KNOW AS AN ENGINEER THIS
CRISIS REMINDS ME OF A CRACK IN
THE BRIDGE.
FOR EXAMPLE IN MAGNOLIA.
IT IS SMALL NOW AND SEEMS
INSIGNIFICANT PERHAPS BUT IF WE
DON'T ADDRESS IT QUICKLY, WILL
PROPAGATE
-- IT
WILL PROPAGATE FASTER.
THIS IS HOW THE CLIMATE IS NOW.
I -- I KNOW AND I APPRECIATE HOW
HARD YOU ARE WORKING ON HAVING
AND ARE WORKING ON ALL THE
CHANGES IN OUR CITY AND THERE
ARE MANY.
I ASK YOU TO TAKE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS MUCH MORE TO HEART AND
START WORKING HARDER ON THIS
ISSUE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, HOLLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
CAN YOU CONFIRM WE HAVE NO
FURTHER PUBLIC REGISTERINGS FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT?
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
HOWEVER, I MAY HAVE MADE A
MISTAKE HERE.
CALLER NUMBER SIX I MAY HAVE
MISNAMED AND HE IS SIGNED UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> OH.
RICHARD?
>> YES.
>> LETS PULL UP RICHARD.
>> I MAY HAVE MISNAMED THE
CALLER.
OH -- SO THIS MAY BE -- I WILL
UNMUTE THIS ONE AND SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
>> OH, THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
IS THIS RICHARD?
>> HELLO.
YES, THIS IS RICHARD.
THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
TO YOU WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT
AND AGENDA ITEM FOUR?
OH, LOST YOU THERE.
>> HELLO?
>> WE ARE BACK.
>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT -- YOUR MACHINE IS DOING
WEIRD STUFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON BOTH
NUMBER SIX AND NUMBER -- AGENDA
NUMBER FOUR.
>> HANG TIGHT.
NUMBER SIX -- GO -- WE WILL GIVE
YOU TWO MINUTES NOW AND THEN
CALL YOU BACK FOR THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS RICHARD.
I I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE
SCCI REPORT T QUARTERLY REPORT
WHICH COMPLETELY IGNORED
RECOMMENDATION BY THE URBAN
FOREST COMMISSIONS DRAFT TREE
PROTECTION ORDINANCE.
WHICH BY THE WAY HAD 900
POSITIVE COMMENTS AND SUPPORT.
THE CITY WILL NOT REQUIRE
PERMITS TO REMOVE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THIS IN MY MIND IS THE LATEST
SCANDAL OF SDCI.
THEY CLAIM THEY ARE LISTENING
SESSIONS OF --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
SDCI INTERVIEWED ONLY 29
PEOPLE IN TOTAL YET IN CONTRAST
TO THE 20201 POLLING BY NPI OF
617 LIKELY VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY
FAVORED IT.
18% AGREED.
ONLY 11% DISAGREED THAT SEATTLE
TREE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE
STRENGTHENED.
57% LIKED THE PERMIT SYSTEM.
ONLY 28% WERE AGAINST PERMITS.
THE MAJORITY SAID THUMBS UP 2-1
OVER THUMBS DOWN IN FAVOR OF A
PER NIT SYSTEM.
HOW DID THEY CONCLUDE SO
DIFFERENTLY?
THEY GAVE ONLY VACANT AUGUST --
SUGGESTIONS OF HOW TO INCREASE
IT.
YOU CAN'T EVALUATE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE EXACT POLICIES ARE GOING TO
BE FOLLOWED.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE
TREE CANOPY IN SEATTLE AS A BIG
MITIGATION FOR 100 DEGREE SUMMER
DAYS AND RECORD RAINFALL
WINTERS, THEN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN
AND TELL SDCI TO REQUIRE PERMITS
AND BETTER TREE PROTECTION AND
HOW IS THAT CREATING GREEN
FACTORS?
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU, RICHARD.
WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK UP IN A
MOMENT.
DOUBLE CONFIRMING WE HAVE NO
FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> YES.
>> THANK YOU, MR. G.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
DANGER ITEM.
OUR FIRST DANGER ITEM IS COUNCIL
BILL 120206.
WILL YOU PLEASE READ THIS ITEM
INTO THE RECORD.
>> DANGER ITEM 1, AN ORDINANCE
RELATING TO LAND USE AND ZONING
AMEND MENDING THE SEATTLE NEW
POLICE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
IT IS LOCATED TO THOSE
ELIGIBLE FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE
MARKETING AND COMMUNITY POLICY.
>> WONDERFUL.
AS I SHARED AT OUR BRIEFING ON
FRIDAY THIS LEGISLATION -- THIS
IS THE SECOND TIME IT IS COMING
BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE BEFORE WE
PASS IT.
HAS TAKEN US ABOUT THREE YEARS
TO GET US TO THIS POINT TODAY.
AGAIN WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCIL
MEMBER JUAREZ FOR HER CONSISTENT
LEADERSHIP FOR HER RESIDENTS IN
D-5.
I'M PARTIAL TO MY OWN DISTRICT
BUT REALLY LIKE D-5 AS WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ, GREAT JOB
LEAD ING FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
AS MANY OF TODAY'S DANGER ITEMS
I WILL ASK WE US FEND RULES TO
-- SUSPEND THE
RULES.
RECOGNIZING EACH OF THESE BILLS
HAVE BEEN IN COMMITTEE TWICE.
SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
WE WILL ASK TO SUSPEND THE RULES
ON A NUMBER OF BILLS TODAY.
BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING MR. FREEMAN COULD YOU
PROVIDE US BRIEF REFRESHER ON
THIS LEGISLATION?
>> SURE.
PERHAPS I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN
HERE ASK CONCENTRATE ON A FEW OF
THE SLIDES HERE THAT THE
COMMITTEE LOOKED AT LAST FRIDAY.
SO COUNCIL BILL 120206 AS
COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS
MENTIONED -- THOSE TWO ARE BOTH
LOCATED ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER.
IN TERMS OF THE REGULATIONS
THEMSELVES, THE CURRENT BILL
FLOWS FROM A SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNER OF
DEVELOPY AND MAKE SOME CHANGES
TO THE BILL THAT THE COUNCIL WAS
CONSIDERING BACK IN THE SUMMER,
COUNCIL BILL 120079.
THE PROPOSED OVER LAY DISTRICT
WOULD LIMIT RESIDENTIAL USES TO
MOBILE HOMES, MOBILE HOME PARKS
AND LOW-INCOME HOUSING.
ALLOW SOME COMMERCIAL USES
BUT LIMIT THE SIZE OF THOSE USES
SO THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE
DEVELOPED ON A MOBILE HOME PARK
SITE.
REMOVE SOME SET BACK IN CITY
LIMITS AND IMMEDIATE AREA
REQUIREMENTS IN THE PRIOR
PROPOSAL.
THE CURRENT REGULATIONS THAT
APPLY TO MOBILE HOME PARKS THAT
ARE ON BUILDING CODE WOULD
REGULATE MOBILE HOME PARK
REDEVELOPMENT.
AFFIRM CURRENT C-155 ZONING
WHICH IS THE ZONE DESIGNATION
PUT IN PLACE FOR THE MHA AND
ESTABLISH THE CITY'S INTENT TO
PERIODICALLY REVISIT THE
DISTRICT AND FINALLY PROVIDE FOR
EXPIRATION THE OVER LAY DISTRICT
AT APPROXIMATELY -- JANUARY 1,
2051.
SO THAT IN A NUTSHELL IS WHAT
COUNCIL BILL 120026 WOULD DO.
ALSO AS THE COMMITTEE WILL
RECALL ON MONDAY THE FULL
COUNCIL VOTED TO EXTEND THE
CURRENT MOBILE HOME PARK -- THE
MORATORIUM ON REDEVELOPMENT AND
MOBILE HOME PARKS.
SO ASSUMING THAT THIS BILL
PASSES FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAY --
IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE
JANUARY AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK
MORATORIUM -- THE MORATORIUM
WOULD LIFT AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT IS A REFRESHER.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE NOW OR
AT THE END OF THE COMMENTARY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
COLLEAGUES, IF YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS, PLEASE COME -- PLEASE
COME OFF CAMERA -- OR ON CAMERA.
FIRST QUESTION MR. FREEMAN I'VE
HEARD SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT WHY ANY
NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WOULD BE
ALLOWED.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY SOME
COMMERCIAL USES WERE INCLUDED?
>> SURE.
A LOT OF THOSE -- THE STRUCTURE
OF THE BILL, WHAT IS ALLOWED IN
THE OVER LAY, WHAT IS NOT
ALLOWED, THE LIMITATIONS ON
CURRENT USES HAVE TO DO WITH THE
LAND USE LAW.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS BILL TRIES
TO DO IS TO MAKE MOBILE HOME
PARKS A CONTINUING HIGHEST AND
BEST USE OF THE LAND.
I DOES THAT BY LIMITING THE
NON-RESIDENTIAL USES THAT COULD
OCCUR ON THE CURRENT ZONING TO
MAKE THEM LESS LIKELY TO OCCUR
SO THAT -- SO THAT A MOBILE HOME
PARK IS -- HAS A PREFERABLE USE
WHILE IT IS IN PLACE.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS A FRAMING
DESCRIPTION.
NOW TO THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION,
BECAUSE THE CURRENT ZONING IS
C-155 AND HAS BEEN COMMERCIAL
PRIOR TO THE MHA ZONE, WE HAVE
TO ALLOW SOME COMMERCIAL USES SO
THAT -- AN OWNER WHO HAS SOME
REASONABLE INVESTMENT BACKED
EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY COULD USE
THE SITE FOR COMMERCIAL USES
COULD PRESERVE THAT AND STILL
TRY MEET THAT EXPECTATION.
HOWEVER, IT IS A LOT LESS LIKELY
THAT A DEVELOPER THAT A CURRENT
OWNER OR MORE DEVELOPER WOULD
DEVELOP THE SITES WITH USES
BECAUSE THE INTENSITY OF THE
USES AND THE RANGE OF USES IS
LESS THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE
BE ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL 155
ZONE.
YOU CAN IMAGINE APPROXIMATELY
FOUR STORY BUILDING LOT LINE THE
LOT LINE ON BOTH SIDES.
UNDER THE OVER LAY THE ALLOWED
FLOOR AREA RATIO IS LESS.
IT IS JUST TWO FOR COMMERCIAL
USES.
THERE IS A MAXIMUM SIZE LIMIT
FOR COMMERCIAL USES OF 5,000
SQUARE FEET.
THAT MEANS SOMEBODY SEEKING TO
DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL USE ON THE
SITE WOULD BE LIMITED TO A
BUILDING ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE
FEET.
THEY COULD NOT -- IF THEY WANTED
TO PUT MORE MULTIPLE 5,000
SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS ON THE
SITE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PHASE
THAT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.
THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT
TRANSACTION COST.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THE OVER LAY
DOESN'T PRECLUDE SOMEBODY
REDEVELOPING THE SITES WITH
COMMERCIAL USES.
THE ONLY WAY THE CITY COULD
PROVIDE A GUARANTEE THAT WOULD
NOT HAPPEN IS IF THE CITY
ACQUIRED THE SITES.
IT MAKES IT MUCH LESS LIKELY
THAT THEY WILL BE DROPPED.
>> THANK YOU.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GOOD
PROTECTIONS AND PROGRAM --
PARAMETERS IN BILL.
IT IS THE MOST PROMINENT OPTION
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
IF WE DID NOT ALLOW FOR THE
COMMERCIAL USES THEN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THAT BUILT A -- A TOWER
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING COULD NOT
HAVE A COFFEE SHOP ON THE FIRST
FLOOR?
>> NO -- LETS SAY THAT A SIDE OR
PORTION OF ONE OF THE MOBILE
HOMESITE SOCIAL SECURITY
REDEVELOPED, THE PRIMARY USE
WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PRINCIPLE
USE -- THE PRINCIPLE USE WOULD
HAVE TO BE A RESIDENTIAL USE.
THAT RESIDENTIAL USE COULD BE IN
A MIX USED BUILDING THAT HAS
SOME MODEST COMMERCIAL
COMPONENTS TO IT LIKE A COFFEE
SHOP OR SOME OTHER INSTITUTIONAL
USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT WOULD NOT HAVE FOR
EXAMPLE -- IT WOULD BE LESS
LIKELY TO HAVE ON THE GROUND
FLOOR A WAL-MART.
OR OTHER SORT OF BIG BOX
RETAILER.
>> WONDERFUL.
THAT IS VERY HELPFUL.
CAN YOU SHARE WHAT OTHER SAFE
GUARDS WOULD BE IN PLACE TO
PREVENT A DEVELOPER FROM TEARING
DOWN HOMES AND USING THE
PROPERTY FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USE
USE?
>> THE PRINCIPLE USES ALLOWED
WOULD BE MOBILE HOME PARKS AND
MOBILE HOMES AND -- AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPED BY
A NON-PROFIT.
SO THAT IS THE PRIMARY THING.
IT TIPS THE SCALES.
IT IS THE SIZE THAT COMMERCIAL
USE COULD BE DEVELOPED TO.
THERE IS A MAXIMUM SIZE LIMIT
PER ESTABLISHMENT.
THAT IS ANOTHER SAFE GUARD.
A THIRD SAFE GUARD HAS TO DO
WITH PHASING AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO SOMEBODY COULD NOT COME IN,
SUBDIVIDE THE PARCEL AND HAVE
SEPARATE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT
BUILDINGS ON MULTI --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
.
>> VERY HELPFUL.
VERY HELPFUL.
DIFFERENT QUESTION HERE.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION
ABOUT MEDIAN INCOME LEVELS IN
THE LEGISLATION.
CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW AMI WORKS
AND CONFIRM THE AMI LEVELS ON
THE LEGISLATION.
THEY ARE MAXIMUMS, CORRECT?
>> YEAH.
THEY ARE -- THEY ARE MAXIMUMS.
THE REASON THE CITY USES MEDIAN
INCOME AS A POSED TO AVERAGE
INCOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS
FOR INCOMES, PARTICULARLY
AVERAGE IS ALWAYS MUCH HIGHER.
SO SOMEBODY CAN'T MAKE LESS THAN
$0 A YEAR BUT SOMEBODY CAN MAKE
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
THE REASON THAT THE CITY AND HUD
AND OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPERS USE MEDIAN INCOME IS
TO -- IS TO ADJUST FOR THE FACT
THAT AVERAGE IS ALWAYS SKEWED
HIGHER.
THE MAXIMUM AFFORDABLE LEVEL
HERE IS ABOUT 60% OF AMI.
I DON'T HAVE THE CITY'S SCALED
INCOME CHARTS IN FRONT OF ME
RIGHT NOW.
MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE
MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE IS ABOUT $100,000 A YEAR
FOR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD THESE
DAYS.
SO -- QUALIFYING HOUSEHOLD COULD
EARN NO MORE THAN $60,000 A
YEAR.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC
PROTECTIONS IN HERE FOR THE
CURRENT MOBILE HOME PARK
RESIDENTS.
SO FOR THOSE RESIDENTS WHO --
EXERCISE A FIRST OFFER AND
CHOOSE TO COME BACK TO AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT,
THEY -- I WOULD PAY NO MORE THAN
40% OF AMI OR 30% OF THEIR
CURRENT INCOME.
IF SOMEBODY IS EARNING LESS THAN
40% OF THE INCOME THEY WOULD --
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY UP TO
40% OF AMI.
THAT BEING SAID THAT IS A
PROVISION THAT IS UNIQUE TO THE
CURRENT MOBILE HOME.
THAT WOULDN'T BE TRUE OF FOLKS
WHO MIGHT LIVE IN AN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED ON
THE SIDE OF THE FUTURE WHO WE
ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE MOBILE
HOME.
>> THANK YOU.
VERY HELPFUL.
AND LAST QUESTION HERE, CAN YOU
ELABORATE OR -- ON THE HEIGHT
LIMITS?
>> SURE.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE
CURRENT ZONING IS 55-FEET.
SOMEBODY COULD BUILD AN
APPROXIMATELY FIVE OR SIX STORY
BUILDING ON THE SITE.
SO WITH THE OVER LAY THERE ARE
MORE RESTRICTIVE DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS.
SO THE UNDER LINE ZONING DOES
NOT APPLY.
FOR THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME
PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AS I SAID EARLIER THE INTENT IS
TO MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THAT
MOBILE HOME PARKS ARE -- THEY
ARE NOT 30-FEET IN HEIGHT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT FUTURE
INNOVATIONS THERE MIGHT BE
AND -- DEVELOPMENT OF STRUCTURES
THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF
MANUFACTURED HOME AND THE LAND
USE CODE.
SO WE WANT TO APPLY SOME KIND OF
LIMITATION THERE SO IN THE
FUTURE IF THERE IS SOMETHING
UNANTICIPATED WE WILL AT LEAST
HAVE SOME WAY OF REGULATING IT,
HENCE THE 30-FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.
IT IS ALSO INTENDED TO MAKE IT
LESS LIKELY THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT
CHOOSE TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL
STRUCTURE ON A MOBILE HOME PARK
SITE.
SO IF SOMEBODY DID CHOOSE TO DO
THAT THERE WOULD BE A HEIGHT
LIMIT.
IT WOULD BE 40-FEET.
SO ABOUT 15 -FEET LESS THAN THEY
WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP.
>> VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
I KNOW WE HAVE HAD THIS BILL
BACK BEFORE US SO MANY TIMES.
>> I HAVE TO CLEAR ALL FEW
THINGS BASED ON SOME OF THE
CORRESPONDENTS AND INFORMATION I
RECEIVED FROM OUR DISTRICT
DIRECTOR.
HE HAS BEEN MEETING WITH THE
RESIDENTS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
SO WE KNOW THE LING ORANGE AND
HOW A LOT OF THIS WORKS.
I WILL ASK YOU TO SLOW DOWN A
LITTLE BIT.
THERE ARE THREE THINGS.
WE HAVE TO START WITH THE
PREMISE THAT THIS IS PRIVATE
PROPERTY.
IT IS NOT GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.
SO THE GOVERNMENT JUST CAN'T
TELL A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER
WHAT TO DO.
THERE ARE -- WE HAVE ZONING LAWS
AND ALL THOSE OTHER USES.
AND WHAT EVOLVED FROM ALL OF
THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN
PROPERTY OWNERS SO WE CAN ENSURE
THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE
THAT ARE ELDERLY OR LOW-INCOME
CAN STAY THERE.
IF THEY BUILD IT UP, THEY CAN
COME BACK.
SOME OF THE CONFUSION WITH SOME
OF OUR ELDERLY RELATIVES ARE
THAT THEY DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND
AMI.
IF YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN AMI KIND
OF ITS ORIGINS AND WHY THE STATE
AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USE IT AS
YARDSTICK TO DETERMINE HOUSING.
IT IS NOT THE PERFECT YARDSTICK
BUT IT IS THE ONE WE HAVE.
JUST LIKE THE DEFINITION FOR
POVERTY.
IT IS PRETTY BAD BUT IT IS THE
ONE WE START WITH.
I THINK PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING
FROM THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT
IS WHERE THEY ARE STUCK.
THE SECOND PART IS -- WHY IT IS
NOT A SPOT ZONE?
WHY THEY ARE ALLOWED OTHER USES.
BECAUSE IN THAT -- IF THERE
WEREN'T THAT WOULD BE A SPOT
ZONE AND THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
IF WE COULD CLEAR THAT UP AND
MAYBE IN A LITTLE MORE TERMS FOR
OUR RELATIVES LISTENING.
THANK YOU.
>> I WILL START WITH MAYBE A
DEFINITION OF WHAT MEDIAN IS AND
I THINK SOME PEOPLE HEAR MEDIAN
AND ASSUME IT MEANS AVERAGE.
THE MEDIAN IS THE MIDPOINT.
THE RANGE OF INCOMES IN THE CITY
OF SEATTLE AT THE VERY BOTTOM
END MIGHT BE $0.
AT THE VERY HIGH END THERE MIGHT
BE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
MEDIAN IS THE MIDPOINT IN THAT
RANGE OF INCOMES IN THE CITY.
THE REASON THAT HUD DOESN'T USE
AVERAGE, THE STATE OF WASHINGTON
DOESN'T USE AVERAGE IS BECAUSE
AVERAGE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THERE ARE PEOPLE MAKING MUCH
MORE THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLARS
A YEAR.
IF THEY WERE TO USE SOMETHING
LIKE AVERAGE THE QUALIFYING
INCOME WOULD SKEW HIGHER THAN
MIDPOINT.
THAT IS THE REASON THE CITY USES
MEDIAN.
THEY ARE BASED ON HOUSEHOLD
SIZE.
MEDIAN INCOME IS SCALED BY
HOUSEHOLD SIZE.
IMAGINE YOU CAN IMAGINE SAY -- A
ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLD IS ONLY ONE
INCOME EARNER IN THAT
HOUSEHOLD -- A MEDIAN INCOME IN
THAT HOUSEHOLD WOULD BE
DIFFERENT THAN A TWO PERSON
HOUSEHOLD OR A THREE PERSON
HOUSEHOLD OR A FOUR PERSON
HOUSEHOLD.
THERE IS A SCALING OF
AFFORDABILITIES THAT IS BASED ON
THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE AND ALL THAT
INFORMATION COMES FROM SURVEYS
CONDUCTED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE.
THAT I THINK HOPEFULLY ANSWERS
THE QUESTION.
I AM HAPPY TO -- I DON'T THINK I
CAN JUST ON THE FLY PULL UP THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING LINK.
I ALWAYS HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT
FOR MANY MINUTES.
>> I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE
THAT -- OUR RELATIVES WHO LIVE
THERE UNDERSTAND.
THAT HAS BEEN A POINT WHERE DEAN
HAS TRIED REALLY HARD.
IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS
IS -- I DON'T WANT TO GO -- BE
TOO DRAMATIC IF IT IS HISTORIC
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE HAVE
HAD THESE TYPE OF AGREEMENTS
WITH THE MANUFACTURED MOBILE
HOME PARK IN THE CITY OF
SEATTLE.
THE LAST ONE THEY ACTUALLY
SOLD -- THEY SOLD AND BUILT
HOUSING THERE.
THIS ONE WE SAVED.
>> YEAH.
JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHO THE
AGREEMENT IS WITH, IT IS NOT
WITH BOTH OWNERS.
IT WAS WITH THE BELLA BEE OWNER.
IT INFORMS -- IT INFORMS THIS
CURRENT ITERATION OF THE BILL --
BUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS
LARGELY ABOUT THE STATE POLICY
ACT APPEAL.
SO WHILE THAT -- WHILE THE
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT INFORMS
THIS VERSION OF THE BILL, THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT IS UP FOR
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND COULD
BE MODIFIED.
BUT THE -- IN TERMS OF THE
HISTORY OF MOBILE HOME PARKS IN
THE CITY -- I AM NOT AWARE OF
ANY OTHER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS
THAT RESULTED IN -- IN A CHANGE
TO REGULATION.
THERE IS A RICH HISTORY OF THE
CITY STRUGGLING WITH HOW TO
PRESERVE MOBILE HOME PARKS.
THERE WAS THE RECENT
REDEVELOPMENT OF THE MOBILE HOME
PARK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT
IS OFF LAKE CITY WAY.
IN THE 90s AND 80s THERE WERE
MORATORY -- LIKE THE CITY HAS
NOW ON REDEVELOPMENT OF MOBILE
HOME PARKS.
SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THAT --
ELEVATION OF THE ISSUE FROM --
REDEVELOPMENT FROM THE THREAT OF
REDEVELOPMENT OF MOBILE HOME
PARKS LED TO CHANGES TO TITLE 22
WHICH IS THE PRIMARY
REGULATORY -- PORTION OF THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE WHEN IT
COMES TO MOBILE HOME PARKS.
THERE ARE EXTENDED NOTICE
PERIODS AND REQUIREMENT OF THE
PLAN.
SOMETHING LARGELY -- MIRRORS
STATE LAW WOULD HAVE SOME CITY
ADDITIONS TO IT AS WELL.
>>.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT IS VERY HELPFUL.
JUST CONFIRM COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS?
SEEING NONE.
GREAT.
COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
NOT SEEING ANY AT THIS TIME.
I WANT TO NOW BRING US UP TO --
OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND AGAIN MR. FREEMAN THANK YOU
FOR THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.
THE AMI ESPECIALLY.
THE AVERAGE VERSUS THE MEDIAN IS
VERY HELPFUL.
BEFORE WE BEGIN -- BEFORE WE
OPEN THE HEARING I WOULD ASK
EVERYONE PLEASE BE PATIENT AS WE
CONTINUE TO LEARN TO OPERATE
THIS NEW SYSTEM AND REALTIME AND
NAVIGATE THROUGH GROWING PAINS.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FINE
TUNE THIS PROCESS AND ADDING NEW
FEATURES THAT ALLOW FOR
ADDITIONAL MEANS OF PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION IN OUR COUNCIL
MEETINGS.
I WILL BE CALLING ON ONE SPEAKER
AT TIME.
IF YOU HAVE NOT YET
REGISTEREDED AND WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK YOU CAN SIGN UP BY GOING
TO THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE.
THE LINK IS ALSO ON TODAY'S
DANGER.
ONCE I CALL ON A SPEAKER'S NAME
STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY STATING
YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING.
PUBLIC COMMENT MUST RELATE TO
THE COUNCIL BILL REGARDING
MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS.
IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT
SOMETHING NOT ON TODAY'S DANGER
OR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING YOU
ALWAYS PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS BY
E-MAILING MY OFFICE.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE A
LOTTED TIME.
ONCE YOU HEAR THE TIME WE ASK
YOU BEGIN TO WRAP UP YOUR
COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE A
LOTTED TIME PROVIDED.
THE MICROFLOWN BE MUTED.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK YOU TO
PLEASE DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE.
WITH THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
COUNCIL BILL 12026 IS NOW OPEN.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST AND
ONLY SPEAKER ON THE LIST WHICH
IS LINDA MCCOY.
SHE'S NOT PRESENT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU ARE
LISTENING YOU RECEIVED A
CONFIRMATION E-MAIL FROM SIGN UP
WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT PHONE
NUMBER THAN LISTEN LINE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
CALLED IN TO THE CORRECT PHONE
NUMBER AND NOT THE LISTEN LINE.
SHOOT.
HAD I REALIZED SHE WAS NOT
PRESENT WE WOULD HAVE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM LINDA
MCCOY LAST FRIDAY WHEN THE CAME
BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC
HEARING.
I KNOW YOU HAVE E-MAILED US.
WE HAVE RECEIVED YOUR E-MAILS
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO INCLUDE
THOSE IN THE RECORD OF THIS
PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL STALL FOR ANOTHER MINUTE
TO SEE IF LINDA IS CALLING IN TO
THE HEARING LINE.
SHUCKS.
DLARNGS UNFORTUNATELY I'M SEEING
YOU AS LISTED AS NOT PRESENT FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL INCLUDE THE E-MAILS YOU
HAVE SENT IN THE RECORD OF THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. G, CAN YOU CONFIRM -- WOULD
YOU LIKE ME TO WAIT ANOTHER
MINUTE?
>> MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH
TO BEING -- THANK YOU FOR BEING
SENSITIVE TO THAT.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY
CLOSELY WITH LINDA.
WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH HER.
I WAS HOPING WE WOULD HEAR FROM
HER CAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO ASK
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE
BEEN TEED UP FROM HER AND HER
CONCERNS.
SO IF WE COULD JUST -- I'M
GETTING TEXTS NOW.
I'M NOT SEEING -- I FEEL
BAD BECAUSE LINDA IS AMAZING.
AND SO IS PATTY AND SOME OF THE
OTHER ELDERS WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH.
SO IF YOU -- IF WE DON'T HAVE
HER, THEN I KNOW WE HAVE HER
COMMENTS AND OUR CONVERSATIONS
AND HER LETTERS AND E-MAILS.
>> WE HAVE LINDA MCCOY PRESENT.
NICE WORK COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> MAGIC.
>> NICE WORK, DEAN.
>> LINDA, HI.
AT YOUR CONVENIENCE PRESS STAR 6
AND YOU WILL COME OFF OF MUTE.
THERE YOU ARE.
>> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU THOUGH.
EITHER YOU MIGHT BE MUTED ON
YOUR OWN --
>> OKAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> OKAY.
GOOD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD.
GOOD MORNING.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL
YOUR -- YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, WE CAN, LINDA.
>> OKAY.
>> CAN YOU RESET THE TIMER?
LINDA, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
TAKE IT AWAY WHENEVER -- YOU
WENT ON MUTE AGAIN.
THERE YOU ARE OFF MUTE.
>> OKAY.
>> WHENEVER YOU WANT YOU CAN
START.
WE CAN HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN
START WHEN YOU WANT.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
SO I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
FOR WORKING -- OH, DEAR.
THAT WAS WHAT I DID EARLIER.
>> CAN YOU RESTART THE TIMER?
WE DON'T -- YEAH.
>> OH, DEAR.
>> DON'T WORRY.
WE WILL BE PATIENT WITH YOU.
WHENEVER YOU ARE READY YOU CAN
GO.
DON'T FEEL ANY PRESSURE TO JUMP
EARLY.
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
>> OKAY.
UM, I'M SO SORRY.
THIS IS LINDA MCCOY.
I'M ON NOW.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES WE CAN HEAR YOU?
SOMEONE IS SAYING THEY CAN HEAR
ME.
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
OKAY.
GOOD.
I'M SO SORRY.
OKAY.
SO, YES.
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING SO HARD ON THIS AND I
KNOW THAT -- THERE IS SO MANY
DETAILS THAT -- I'M GOING TO
MOVE OVER SO I'M OUT OF RANGE OF
MY COMPUTER CAUSE I'M GETTING
FEEDBACK.
SO -- I APPRECIATE THE --
EXPLANATIONS OF THINGS IN THE
BILL AND -- THERE WE GO.
AND -- AND I DO KNOW IT HAS BEEN
A LONG TIME, A LONG HAUL, BUT I
ALSO -- I WANT TO PUT IN A LAST
MINUTE PLUG FOR MAKING SURE
THINGS ARE CONSISTENT AND IF --
A REGULAR NEGOTIATION NEEDS TO
OCCUR THEN IT WILL HAVE TO
OCCUR.
I ALSO DO THINK THAT THIS
IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW
WHICH IS NO PROTECTIONS.
SO, UM, THAT IS SINCE I DO
SUPPORT THIS PASSING IF YOU FIND
THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T FIGURE OUT
A WAY TO MAKE ANY OF THE CHANGES
THAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED AND WE DO
NEED TO GO AHEAD.
SO THAT IS FINAL COMMENT I
WANTED TO MAKE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I HOPE
THIS -- SOMEHOW SUCCESSFULLY GOT
ENTERED.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, LINDA.
WE GOT IT ALL.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
PATIENCE WITH US WITH THE
TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUES.
>> OKAY.
YEAH.
BYE.
>> BYE.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
MR. G, CONFIRMING THERE ARE NO
FURTHER PUBLIC HEARING
REGISTRANTS PRESENT.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> AFFIRMATIVE.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER PUBLIC
HEARING REGISTRANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
GLAD I FINALLY GOT THAT RIGHT.
WITH THAT IT IS NOW CLOSED AS
THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER
REMOTELY PRESENT TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO
PROVIDED DON'T KNOW DAY.
COLLEAGUES, I WOULD LIKE TO
SUSPEND THE RULES.
ALLOW US TO VOTE ON THE SAME DAY
AS A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN
ADOPT THIS LEGISLATION BEFORE
THE END OF THE YEAR.
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK ARE
THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE
VOTE ON SUSPENDING THE RULES?
>> JUST -- AGAIN, I'M SURE YOU
WILL GET TO THIS BUT JUST AS A
REMINDER THERE IS AN AMENDMENT
TO SORT OF -- THIS IS A GOOD
SUGGESTION FROM MISS MCCOY TO
CORRECT AN ERROR IN THE RECITALS
AND TO ALSO -- BY ADDING A
RECITE THAT WILL REFLECTS THE
RECENT ACTION ON DECEMBER 6TH.
>> I'M VERY EXCITED TO BRING
THE -- LINDA MCCOY AMENDMENT
FORWARD CH WE NEED TO MOVE THE
BILL FIRST.
TO MOVE THE BILL WE HAVE TO
SUSPEND THE RULES.
WE ARE SECONDS AWAY.
JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR
THAT REMINDER MR. FREEMAN.
ANY -- SEEING NO QUESTIONS.
I MOVE TO US FEND RULES TO ALLOW
A VOTE ON COUNCIL BILL 120206.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO US FEND RULES TO
ALLOW A VOTE ON THE SAME DAY AS
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
RULE?
>> CHAIR PETERSON?
>> YES.
>> LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THERE IS AS ONE -- MR. FREEMAN
MENTIONED THERE IS ONE AMENDMENT
BEFORE US TODAY, TO UPDATE
RECITALS TO REFLECT THE
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE AMENDMENT I
WILL MOVE THE UNDERLYING
LEGISLATION SO I WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120206.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ONE AMENDMENT BEFORE US WAS
CHAMPIONED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
JUAREZ AND SUGGESTED BY LINDA
MCCOY OF THE HOUSE
MANUFACTURING HOMEOWNER'S
ASSOCIATION.
IT HAS BEEN RENEWED TWICE.
JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING?
>> NO.
YOU GOT IT COUNCIL MEMBER
STRAUSS.
IT CORRECTLY REFLECTS THE NUMBER
OF TIMES THE MORATORIUM HAS BEEN
EXTENDED.
ITS FOUR ADDITIONAL TIMES.
IT ALSO REFLECTS THE COUNCIL'S
MOST KRE CENT ACTION ON DECEMBER
6TH WHICH EXTENDS THE
MORATORIUM -- ASSUMING THE BILL
IS APPROVED BY THE MAYOR FOR AN
ADDITIONAL SIX MONTH PERIOD OR
THE EARLIER OF THE AFFECTED DATA
OF COUNCIL BILL 120206.
>> GREAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND
IT.
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> I.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL
120206 CARRIES.
WE CAN NOW MOVE TO VOTE ON THE
UNDERLYING --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
I WILL JUST SAY AND I SHARED
THIS LAST WEEK THAT MY
GRANDPARENTS LIVED IN
MANUFACTURING HOME PARK WHERE
THEY WERE ABLE TO OWN THE HOME
BUT NOT THE LAND UNDER THEM.
IF THE LAND WAS SOLD THE
MANUFACTURED HOME WOULD HAVE TO
BE MOVED BUT THE HOME WAS OLD
ENOUGH IT WOULD NOT HAVE
SURVIVED A MOVE.
SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING GRAY
AREA IN PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AS MR. FREEMAN MENTIONED THERE
IS ALREADY A -- MANUFACTURED
HOME PARK IN LAKE CITY THAT IS
NO LONGER THERE.
SO JUST TAKING THIS MOMENT TO
THANK COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP TO BRING THIS
LEGISLATION TOGETHER.
KEEPING US OUT OF COURT BECAUSE
YOU ARE A LAWYER AND GOOD AT IT.
WITH THAT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS?
SEEING NONE.
WOULD LIKE TO NOW MOVE TO VOTE
ON THE LEGISLATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOVEMBER
RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNCIL
BILL 120206 AS AMENDED.
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120206.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> YES.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS
>> YES.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU ALL.
THE LEGISLATION WILL BE BEFORE
THE FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAY
DECEMBER 13TH.
OUR NEXT DANGER ITEM IS COUNCIL
BILL 120239.
WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE
ABBREVIATED TITLE?
>> COUNCIL BILL 120239.
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
SEATTLE'S CONSTRUCTION CODES
AMENDING THE 2018 SEATTLE ENERGY
CODE.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE ANYTHING
BEFORE WE BEGIN IN.
>> YES.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS
LEGISLATION LAST FRIDAY TO GET
THIS -- ROLLING AND WRAPPED UP
BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
IN THE INTERIM MY OFFICE DID
COORDINATE WITH YOLANDA AND YOUR
OFFICE, MR. CHAIR, TO SET A DATE
CERTAIN AMENDMENT WE WILL
CONSIDER.
WITH THAT I CAN HOLD THE REST OF
MY COMMENTS UNTIL CONSIDERATION
OF THE BILL ITSELF RESTING ON
OUR DISCUSSION FROM THE HEARING
ON FRIDAY AND I WILL HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS FOR YOLANDA REGARDING
THE AMENDMENT AND THEN SOME
CLOSING REMARKS BEFORE WE DO A
VOTE ON THE LEGISLATION.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS.
WE ARE JOINED BY YOLANDA TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAD A REALLY GREAT BRIEFING
LAST TIME.
WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA THIS
TIME.
I WILL ASK FOR A BRIEF
REFRESHER.
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE
BEFORE WE VOTE?
>> YOLANDA COUNCIL CENTRAL
STAFF.
WE HAVE COLLEAGUES FROM THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCTION HERE.
JUST WANTED TO DO A QUICK RECAP
OF THE LEGISLATION SO THAT
EVERYONE REMEMBERS WHAT WE ARE
DISCUSSING HERE THAT COUNCIL
BILL 120239 WOULD AMEND THE
ENERGY CODE.
THE CITY HAS A STANDARD PRACTICE
OF AN AND AN AMENDED VERSION
THAT REQUIRES NEW MULTI-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS TALLER
THAN THREE STORIES AND ALL NEW
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO CONFORM
TO HIGHER STANDARD THAN THOSE
REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
REGULATIONS ALSO FLY
ALTERATIONS.
WATER HEATING RESTRICTIONS WERE
PERMITTED TO MULTI-FAMILY AND
HOTEL USES BASED ON THEIR MORE
PREDICTABLE WATER USAGE.
THE COMMITTEE CONSIDERED
AMENDING THE 2018 ENERGY CODE IN
FEBRUARY TO EXTEND THIS
RESTRICTION TO ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS DURING THE
DELIBERATIONS BUT INSTEAD
REQUESTED THAT THE SEATTLE
EPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION
INSPECTION CONDUCT ADDITIONAL
WORK ON THE PROPOSAL DUE TO A
VARIETY OF COMPLICATING FACTORS
THAT MADE IT -- FOR THE
COMMITTEE TO TAKE ACTION.
THIS LEGISLATION IS THE RESULT
OF THAT REQUESTED WORK.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT ALL NEW
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS USE
ELECTRIC HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS
WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE
RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSTRUCTION
CODES ADVISORY BOARD WHICH IS
INDEPENDENT ADVISORY BOARD FOR
THE CITY REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO
THE CITY'S CONSTRUCTION CODES.
MOST NOTABLY ONE EXCEPTION WAS
MADE FOR THAT IT DOES NOT APPLY
TO UPGRADES OF EXISTING
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDED SOME
TECHNICAL AND CLARIFYING
AMENDMENTS.
WITH THAT SUMMERY I WILL BE
HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS OR
HAVE COLLEAGUES FROM THE
DEPARTMENT --
>> GREAT.
I SEE YOU HAVE COME OFF MUTE.
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE?
>> NOPE.
>> GREAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOLANDA?
WE HAD A REALLY ROBUST
CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.
SEEING NONE.
AS YOU RECALL ON FRIDAY THERE
WERE DISCUSSIONS OF SETTING A
DATE CERTAIN AS COUNCIL MEMBER
LEWIS MENTIONED FOR
IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE NEW
REQUIREMENTS.
AFTER CONSULTING WITH SDCI
AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF APRIL
1ST WAS AGREED UPON.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS AND I HAVE
AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD
APRIL 1ST AS AN IMPLEMENTATION
DATE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE BASE
LEGISLATION AND MOVE THE
AMENDMENT.
THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION I
WILL MOVE THE LEGISLATION AND
THEN AMENDMENT.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
I MOVE TO AMEND THAT.
NOW WILL MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL
BILL ON THE DANGER.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
>> YES.
THANK YOU CHAIR STRAUSS.
I THINK JUST TO -- FOR OUR DUE
DILIGENCE IN THIS DISCUSSION OF
THE AMENDMENT AND JUST TO TALK
BRIEFLY ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF SETTING A DATE CERTAIN, MAYBE
GIVE YOLANDA A CHANCE TO DO AN
OVER VIEW OF THE PRACTICAL
IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENT AND THEN
I COULD ASK A FEW FOLLOW UP
QUESTIONS BASED ON YOLANDA'S
BRIEF OVER VIEW OF THE
AMENDMENT.
>> YES.
SO THE AMENDMENT -- SO WITHOUT
THE AMENDMENT THE LEGISLATION
WOULD GO INTO EFFECT SOMEWHERE
IN MID, LATE JANUARY DEPENDING
ON THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE
PROCESS -- ASSUMING THE COUNCIL
PASSES LEGISLATION ON DECEMBER
13TH AND THEN IT GETS SENT OVER
TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR A
SIGNATURE OR NO SIGNATURE AND
ASSUMING THE MAYOR ALLOWS IT TO
GO INTO EFFECT IT WOULD -- I
ESTIMATED SOMEWHERE AROUND
JANUARY 22ND WOULD.
SO THAT WOULD BE QUITE SOON.
THE AMENDMENT THEN PUSHES THIS
EFFECTIVE DATE OUT TO APRIL 1ST
ALLOWING THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT
OF CONSTRUCTIONS AND INSPECTIONS
TO CONDUCT AVERAGE AS DESCRIBED
BY THE CHAIR AND LET EVERYONE
KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING VERSUS
KIND OF -- ESPECIALLY AROUND THE
TIMING WITH THE HOLIDAYS AND
EVERYTHING.
THERE IS -- THERE IS -- THERE
SHOULD BE AMPLE TIME TO ALLOW
FOR THAT OUTREACH.
THAT IS -- THE EFFECT OF THIS
AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER --
>> CHAIR, THAT OVER VIEW -- IS
IT SU FISH DWROENT EXPLAIN THE
UNDERLYING MERITS OF HAVING A
DATE CERTAIN SET RELATIVE TO
WHAT THE CURRENT EFFECTIVE DATE
WOULD BE GIVEN WHEN WE ARE
PASSING THE BILL?
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE DATES CERTAIN BUT --
ONCE WE AMENDED AND WE ARE
LOOKING AT FINAL PASSAGE I MIGHT
ASK A FEW CLARIFYING THINGS OF
YOLANDA.
I THINK THIS SATISFIES MY
QUESTION ON THE DATE CERTAIN
AMENDMENT.
>> GREAT.
SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS IT HAS BEEN AMENDED.
CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> I.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANKS.
THE SMOKE CARRIES.
COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS OR
COLLEAGUES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE ON
THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED?
>> YES I DO HAVE -- I HAVE ONE
CAN QUESTION FROM REVIEWING THE
LEGISLATION AND ANTICIPATION OF
THIS HEARING THAT I DID WANT TO
ASK YOLANDA JUST CAUSE I DON'T
KNOW IF WE COVERED THIS IN OUR
HEARING ON FRIDAY.
THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF THE
SIGNIFICANT CLAUSE IN THE
LEGISLATION AND YOLANDA IF MAYBE
YOU COULD EXPLAIN LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT THE SIGNIFICANT
FZ ALTERATIONS CLAUSE IS.
IT IS AN AREA I DON'T THINK WE
ADDRESSED ON FRIDAY.
>> I -- MIGHT WANT TO TURN TO MY
COLLEAGUE DWAYNE TO PITCH IN ON
THIS ONE.
I THINK -- WE JUST -- WE DID
DISCUSS THAT THIS LEGISLATION
DOES NOT IMPACT IF THERE IS A
REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT AND AN
EXISTING BUILDING.
THIS APPLIES TO THE COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS.
I THINK I WILL LET DWAYNE.
DWAYNE.
>> HELLO.
COULD YOU PLEASE RECEIVE EXACTLY
WHAT IS THE -- THE QUESTION AND
WHAT -- WHAT PART OF THE -- OF
THE AMENDMENT YOU ARE REFERRING
TO IN.
>> THIS IS REFERRING DWAYNE TO
THE UNDERLYING BILL TALKING
ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT
ALTERATIONS CLAUSE.
JUST AN OVER VIEW AND -- OF THE
IMPLICATIONS AND THE IMPACT OF
THAT.
IT IS SOMETHING -- SOME FOLKS
HAVE REACHED OUT ABOUT.
>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
UNDERLYING CODE OR SOMETHING IN
THIS -- THIS CURRENT AMENDMENT
THAT WE ARE MAKING HERE?
I'M STILL NOT COMPLETELY SURE
WHAT IT IS THAT -- YOU ARE
ASKING.
>> RIGHT.
IT IS THE PRACTICAL SCOPE OF
WORK THAT WOULD DRINKINGER THE
NEED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THIS
NEW CODE UNDER THE SIGNIFICANT
ALTERATIONS CLAUSE.
>> OKAY.
I'M GETTING IT.
SUBSTANTIAL ALTERATION SOCIAL
SECURITY A POINT IN THE SEATTLE
CODE WHERE WE CONSIDER ALMOST A
NEW BUILDING.
THIS IS OFTEN A COMPLETE GUT AND
REMODEL OF AN EXISTING BUILDING
AND -- AND -- IT IS DEFINED
TYPICALLY AS -- SUBSTANTIALLY
EXTENDING THE PHYSICAL OR
ECONOMIC LIFE OF THE BUILDING.
IT IS A VERY BIG DEAL.
IN THOSE -- SITUATIONS WE DO
REQUIRE THAT -- THAT THE -- THE
WATER HEATER BE BROUGHT UP TO
CODE.
WHAT WE HAVE EXEMPTED THOUGH
ELSEWHERE IN IT IS YOUR MORE PIP
CAL SITUATION WHERE -- THE WATER
HEATER HAS GONE OUT OR THEY JUST
WANT TO REPLACE IT AND ITS A GAS
WATER HEATER.
WE ARE STILL ALLOWING THAT FOR
THE TIME BEING.
>> THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT GETS TO THE CRUX OF
SOME OF THE CONCERN I'VE HEARD
FROM PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THIS
MIGHT -- MIGHT INFLUENCE
SIGNIFICANT ALTERATION VERSUS
NEW BUILD.
I THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO GO
A LONG WAY SOME OF THE CONCERNS
WE HAVE HEARD.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING
THAT.
>> CERTAINLY.
>> THANK YOU, DWAYNE.
THANK YOU FOR JOEL ALSO FOR
JOINING US LAST WEEK.
UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A
COMPROMISE.
COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD?
THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION
ON THE LEGISLATION AS AMENDED.
I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE RECOMMENDED
PASSAGE OF COUNCIL BILL 120239.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
COUNCIL BILL 120239.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> I.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCIL BILL 120239 AS AMENDED
PASSES.
THANK YOU ALL.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL BE BEFORE
THE FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAY
DECEMBER 13TH.
WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE
ABBREVIATED TITLE INTO THE
RECORD?
>> AMENDING THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE TO
AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS TO
ADMINISTRATE ILY WAIVE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR MINOR
EXAMS OF SEWAGE TREATMET
PLANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
I TOOK A SIP OF MY COFFEE.
WE HEARD FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF
KING COUNTY WASTE TREATMENT
DIVISION ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
ALLOWING THIS WORK TO MOVE
FORWARD.
CAN YOU PROVIDE US BRIEF
REFRESHER ON THIS LEGISLATION
THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A 55-FOOT
BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT IS A PARK
ON A GRATED SLOPE THAT NO ONE
CAN SEE THE BUILDING FROM THE
PARK?
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO JUST BY WAY OF A REMINDER ON
FRIDAY --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THIS BILL WOULD MODIFY
OTHERWISE APPLICABLE LAND USE
PROCEDURES TO CREATE A LIMITED
EXCEPTION FOR AN EXPANSION OF
THE TREATMENT PLANT.
IT WOULD CATEGORIZE THE
EXPANSION AS MINOR.
WHEN IT IS BELOW CURRENT SIZE
LIMITS FOR MINOR EXPANSIONS --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THE QUALIFICATION IS THE
DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE REQUIRED
BY OUR DEPARTMENT OF ORDER FOR
CORRECTIVE ACTION.
IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION THE
DIRECTOR OF SDCI TO WAIVE
PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
HERE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE A
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLAN TO
MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
IT IS UNCLEAR -- WHETHER THERE
WILL BE ANY CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS
FROM THIS.
ITS POSSIBLE AND PERHAPS LIKELY
THAT KING COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO
ACCOMMODATE MOST OF THE
CONSTRUCTION AND STAGING ET
CETERA ON
SITE.
IT WOULD MAKE SOME PROCEDURAL
CHANGES TO ALLOW KING COUNTY TO
APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT
PRIOR TO RECEIVING ANY WAIVERS
FROM THE CITY AND FINALLY WOULD
DECLARE A STATE OF ENVIRONMENTAL
POLICY ACTIVE EMERGENCY TO
EXEMPT BOTH THIS COUNCIL BILL
120215.
I SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH JUST
A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT THE
PROBLEM IS THAT THIS LEGISLATION
SEEKS TO SOLVE.
JUST BY A WAY OF A REMINDER THE
PURPOSE IS TO FACILITATE
CONSTRUCTION OF A BUILDING TO
HOUSE NON-LINE, UNINTERRUPTIBLE
POWER SUPPLY.
SO A LARGE BUILDING WITH
BATTERIES INSIDE OF IT TO ALLOW
CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING
SOONER THAN MIGHT OTHERWISE BE
ABLE TO OCCUR.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT IS A
GOOD ENOUGH REFRESHER.
THERE IS THE POWER POINT
PRESENTATION --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
>> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS.
THIS IS A REAL GOOD EXAMPLE OF
DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS
WORKING TOGETHER.
THE CITY WORKING WITH
KING COUNTY TO GET THERE DONE.
THEY HAVE BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE
AND THAT -- SEATTLE CITY LIGHT
HAS BEEN WORKING HARD WITH KING
COUNTY WASTE WATER DIVISION,
SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES IS
INVOLVED.
WE ALL WANT TO SEE A REDUCTION
IN UNNECESSARY FLOWS THAT
HAVEN'T BEEN TREATED.
THERE WERE SEVERAL WAYS TO
DO THIS AND THIS I WANT TO
COMPLIMENT CENTRAL STAFF FOR
COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION HERE
AND BEING VERY THOROUGH ABOUT
IT.
I WANT TO THANK CHAIR STRAUSS
FOR SHEPHERDING IT THROUGH HIS
COMMITTEE.
IT REALLY HELPED HAVE THAT
SPECIAL MEETING LAST WEEK SO WE
COULD HEAR IT TWICE AND GET IT
DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THEN IT IS REALLY UP TO KING
COUNTY TO TAKE IT FROM HERE AND
TO GET IT DONE.
JUST GRATITUDE ALL AROUND TO
SERVE THIS BASIC PROBLEM OF
TREATING OUR WASTE WATER BEFORE
IT GETS INTO OUR WATER WAYS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER
PEDERSEN.
JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT
THIS BUILDING THAT WE ARE
PROVIDING WILL CREATE AN
UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SOURCE.
COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
AND -- SEEING NONE FOR --
LINDA -- SINCE I DON'T HAVE
ANYONE PRESENT, DO I NEED READ
THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC
HEARING OR CAN I JUST OPEN AND
CLOSE IT?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS YOU
SHOULD PROBABLY READ THE
INSTRUKS IN CASE SOMEBODY WAS
NOT THERE EARLIER ON IN THE
MEETING.
>> OKAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> VICE CHAIR MOSQUEDA I SEE YOU
ARE OFF MUTE.
>> OKAY.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
>> NO, GO AHEAD.
YESTERDAY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY
THERE EITHER AND I DEFERRED TO
THE CLERKS.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.
I WILL MOD TRAIT PUBLIC HEARING
IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN
MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THIS LINK IS ALSO ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
ONCE I CALL ON YOUR NAME STAFF
WILL UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
PLEASE BEGIN SPOOUT -- BY SPEAK
YOUR
NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE
TIME.
SPEAKERS DO NOT END THEIR
COMMENTS BY THE END OF THE TIME
THEIR MICROFLOWN BE MUTED --
MICROPHONE WILL
BE MUTED.
IT IS NOW OPENED.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
MR. G CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM
THAT THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARING
REGISTRANTS CURRENTLY PRESENT TO
SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
>> AFFIRMATIVE.
THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARING
REGISTRANTS.
>> THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME I DO NOT HAVE
ANYONE REMOTELY PRESS TENT TO
SPEAK.
YOU HAVE ALREADY CONFIRMED THERE
IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IN
THE CUE BEFORE CLOSING THIS
MEETING.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNCIL
BILL 120215 IS NOW CLOSED.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS
COMMITTEE I REQUESTED WE US FEND
RULES BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD THESE
IN COMMITTEE TWICE.
I ASK US TO VOTE ON THE SAME DAY
AS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE?
SEEING NONE I MOVE TO US FEND
RULES TO ALLOW US TO VOTE.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> I.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, MONEY OPPOSED.
>> THANK --NONE
OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
.
>> I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL
MEMBER LEWIS.
THIS IS IN HIS DISTRICT.
EARLY ON HE RECOGNIZED THE NEED
TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
SEEING AS THERE IS NO FURTHER
DISCUSSION WE WILL NOW VOTE ON
THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION.
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED TO RECOMMEND THE PASS
TOOJ COUNCIL BILL 120215.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE?
>> COUNCIL MEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ.
>> I.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA.
>> I.
>> CHAIR STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THANK YOU.
THE MOTION CARRIES.
THE LEGISLATION WILL BE BEFORE
THE FULL COUNCIL ON MONDAY
BEFORE A FINAL VOTE.
MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA
ITEM.
WILL YOU PLEASE KEEP THE
ABBREVIATED TITLE INTO THE
RECORD?
>> DANGER ITEM FOUR, COUNCIL
BILL 120214.
AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO LAND USE
AND ZONING RENAMING SINGLE
FAMILY ZONES TO NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
>> THANK YOU.
THIS IMPLEMENTS THE AMENDMENT
THAT WE PASSED EARLIER THIS
YEAR.
AGAIN THIS IS NAME CHANGE ONLY.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ZONING.
WE ARE JOINED BY CENTRAL STAFF.
CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE A BRIEF
REFRESHER BEFORE WE OPEN PUBLIC
HEARING.
IF -- YOU HAVE SLIDES TO SHARE,
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE SHARING
SCREEN IN MY COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO I WILL TRY SHARING MY SCREEN.
MY SCREEN.
CAN YOU SEE THAT?
>> YES, WE CAN.
>> GREAT.
SO THIS BILL IS BOTH LENT
LENGTHY AND SIMPLE .
THEY WOULD BE RENAMED TO
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ONE.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 7200
WITH THE RENAME --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 5,000
WOULD BE RENAMED NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL 3.
THE RESIDENTIAL SMALL LOT ZONE
WOULD BE NAMED RESIDENTIAL SMALL
LOT.
IT AMENDS MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF
THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE
OFFICIAL LAND USE MAP.
ALMOST ALL REFERENCES TO THE
EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY ZONES
WOULD BE CHANGED EXCEPT IN THE
SHORELINE CODE WHICH REQUIRES
THE SPECIAL PROCESS INCLUDING
STATE APPROVAL AND THOSE
AMENDMENTS WILL BE MADE
ALONGSIDE OTHER SHORELINE CODE
AMENDMENT UPDATES IN THE FUTURE.
THE -- LEGISLATION INCLUDES 180
DAY EFFECTIVE DAY TO ALLOW SDCI
TO -- THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCTION TO UPDATE THEIR
MATERIALS, THE MAPS AND THE
CODE.
AND THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE TO
SHOW IS THE LOCATION OF THESE
ZONES.
IT COVERS ABOUT 60% OF THE CITY,
LAND AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE HAD THIS BEFORE US
MULTIPLE TIMES AND IN MANY
DIFFERENT FASHIONS.
SEE NOTHING QUESTIONS.
THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS
CAN YOU CONFIRM THIS DOES NOT
CHANGE WHAT IS ALLOWED OR NOT
ALLOWED IN ANY ZONING IN THE
CITY?
>> CORRECT.
THE ONLY CHANGES TO CHANGE NAME
OF THE ZONES.
>> THANK YOU.
THAT IS GREAT.
COLLEAGUES -- VICE CHAIR
MOSQUEDA DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING
TO SHARE AT THIS TIME?
TOTALLY OKAY IF NOT.
>> YES.
MR. CHAIR, IS THIS AN
APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE A FEW
COMMENTS ABOUT THE LEGISLATION
OR SHOULD I HOLD OFF TILL --
>> EITHER NOW OR AFTER THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
>> LET'S DO IT AFTERWARDS.
>> GREAT.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
NOW AND WE WILL KEEP MOVING.
BEFORE WE OPEN THE REMOTE PUBLIC
HEARING I WILL ASK THAT EVERYONE
PLEASE BE PATIENT.
WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY LOOK FOG
WAYS TO FINE TUNE THIS PROCESS
AND ADDING NEW FEATURES THAT
ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL MEANS OF
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN OUR
COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I WILL MOD ERATE IT IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNER.
I WILL CALL ON ONE SPEAKER AT A
TIME AND IN THE ORDER IN WHICH
YOU REGISTERED.
IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO
SPEAK AND WOULD LIKE TO YOU CAN
SIGN UP BEFORE THE END OF THIS
PUBLIC HEARING BY GOING TO THE
COUNCIL'S WEBSITE AT
SEATTLE.GOV/COUNCIL.
THE LINK IS ALSO LISTED ON
TODAY'S AGENDA.
THE ONCE -- ONCE YOU REGISTER
YOU WILL GET A PHONE NUMBER TO
CALL IN THAT IS NOT THE LISTEN
LINE.
ONCE I CALL ON A SPEAKER'S NAME,
STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE
APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE.
THAT POINT YOU WILL NEED TO
PRESS STAR 6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN SPEAKING BY STATING
YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE
ADDRESSING.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO
THE COUNCIL BILL.
IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON TODAY'S
AGENDA OR NOT COUNCIL BILL
120214, YOU CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE
WRITTEN COMMENT BY E-MAILING MY
OFFICE.
SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN
TEN SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE A
LOTTED TIME.
ONCE YOU HEAR THE CHIME WE ASK
YOU GONE -- BEGIN TO WRAP UP
YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENT WE ASK YOU PLEASE
DISCONNECT FROM THE LINE AND IF
YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE FOLLOWING
THIS, PLEASE DO SO FOLLOWING THE
SEATTLE CHANNEL.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN
AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE LIST.
I SEE TWO PEOPLE, THESE
PEOPLE -- NO, TWO PEOPLE
PRESENT.
I SEE DEB BARKER AND
RICHARD.
DEB GOOD, MORNING.
TAKE IT AWAY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO
SAY --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
IT IS SO RARE IT ACTUALLY WORKS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT TODAY.
I'M DEB BARKER.
I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO
COUNCIL BILL 120214.
IN ITS HISTORY THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED STRONG FIRST
PRINCIPLE PROVIDERS.
THE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS IS ONE
SUCH RESPECTED AND ACKNOWLEDGED
TOOL.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE NAME
TO WHICH THE DISCUSSION DOES NOT
BELONG IN TODAY'S VOTE.
THE NUMBER OF IMPACTED
PROPERTIES WITH ASSOCIATED
OWNERS IS BY FAR BEYOND THE
SCOPE OF THIS BILL AND
UNFORTUNATE LY -- PLEASE VOTE NO
ON COUNCIL BILL 124214 AND MOVE
THE NAME SWITCH DISCUSSION TO
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
PROCESS WHERE IT BELONGS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, DEB.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE HEARING FROM
YOU AND UP NEXT IS RICHARD.
I SEE YOU ARE HERE.
PRESS STAR 6.
THERE YOU ARE.
THANK YOU, RICHARD.
TAKE IT AWAY.
>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
MY NAME IS RICHARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT --
UM -- THE ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH
IS CV20214 WHICH SERVES NO
FUNCTION EXCEPT AS A SNOW
SCREENED TO DEREL REGULATE
BUILDING CODES ALLOWING MORE
TREES TO BE REMOVED AND LESS
OPEN SPACE TREE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THIS BEING DONE BEFORE CHANGES
IN CITY COUNCIL AND BASICALLY
TRYING TO JUST RAILROAD IT
THROUGH.
THE CHANGING OF THE NAME IS A
DELIBERATE ACTION TO FACILITATE
THE REDUCTION OF RESTRICTION IN
DEVELOPMENT.
HOW WILL IT BE SAVED?
YOU SAY THAT CHANGING THE
WORDING FROM SINGLE FAMILY ZONES
TO NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL JUST
JUST --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
IF YOU WANT TO UP ZONE GET YOUR
OPEN SPACE AND TREE PROTECTION
ACT TOGETHER FIRST.
WHETHER IT IS A BACKYARD OR
SINGLE FAMILY ZONE OR A
MULTI ROW OF HOUSES THERE
MUST BE --
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
IT IS NOT JUST DENSITY.
[ INDISCERNIBLE ]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, RICHARD.
>> AFFIRMATIVE.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER PUBLIC
HEARING REGISTRANTS.
>> PUBLIC HEARING ON COUNSEL
BILL 120214 IS NOW CLOSED.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO
PROVIDED COMMENTS TODAY.
COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR THE FINAL
TIME, I WILL ASK US TO SUSPEND
RULES TO VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE
HAD THIS BILL IN COMMITTEE
TWICE, SO WE CAN ADOPT THIS
REGISTRATION BEFORE THE END OF
THE YEAR?
ANY QUESTIONS THEN BEFORE WE
VOTE?
WE WILL MOVE THE LEGISLATION,
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBERS WILL BE
ABLE TO SPEAK.
I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO
ALLOW US TO VOTE ON COUNSEL
BILL 120214 ON THE SAME DAY AS
THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLE ON SUSPENDING THE RULES TO
ALLOW A VOTE ON THE SAME DAY AS
THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> COUNCILMEMBER PETERSEN.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ.
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MUSKEDA.
>> AYE.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES.
OUR NEXT ACTION ON THIS BILL
WILL BE TO VOTE ON IT.
SO AT THIS TIME, COLLEAGUES, IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE
TO SO.
I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA,
I'LL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD.
I DO WANT TO SEE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN, I SAW YOUR HAND POP
UP.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR STRAUSS.
IF IT'S OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA, YOU'D PREFER I GO
FIRST?
JUST RECALLING SOME OF THE
EMAILS WE'VE RECEIVED, PEOPLE
THAT DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
THIS CHANGE, I FEEL THAT THE
MORE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION
WILL BE HAPPENING THIS YEAR.
THAT THIS IS JUST A NAME
CHANGE, WHILE THE ULTIMATE
GOALS OF A NAME CHANGE MIGHT BE
DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AT THIS TIME, I THINK JUST
TECHNICALLY THE ACTUAL
SUBSTANCE WILL HAPPEN NEXT
YEAR, SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE
PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
MASSIVE BLANKET CHANGES TO
ZONING, THAT I WILL BE ASKING
QUESTIONS ABOUT DISPLACEMENT,
ABOUT PRESERVING TREES, ABOUT
ARE WE DOING THIS FOR LOW
INCOME HOUSING, OR ARE WE DOING
IT FOR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
TO MAKE SURE WE ACHIEVE OUR
GOALS.
I'LL BE VOTING YES TODAY.
AS MY COLLEAGUES SAID, IT IS
TECHNICALLY JUST A NAME CHANGE
AT THIS POINT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
PETERSEN.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, OR JUAREZ,
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
SEEING NONE AT THIS TIME,
COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, YOU
WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD.
>> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS SAID, I AND
THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ARE
READY TO HAVE COMMENTS WITH THE
COMMUNITY, I TOO WILL BE MAKING
SURE TO PRIORITIZE HOW WE
COUPLE POLICY CHANGES THAT ARE
DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY WITH
PROTECTING AND INVESTING IN
MORE TREES, AND PROTECTING
AGAINST DISPLACEMENT, AND
PROMOTING NEW POLICIES TO
PREVENT DISPLACEMENT, AS WE
ALSO THINK ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE
DISCUSSIONS IN 2022 WITH ALL OF
YOU.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER
STRAUSS FOR SPONSORING THIS
LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE IN
FRONT OF US, AMENDING THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO RENAME
SINGLE FAME ZONES, A MISNOMER
INTO A MORE INCLUSIVE, AND
ACCURATE NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTIAL TERM.
I THINK THIS LEGISLATION ALLOWS
US TO SET THE GROUND FOR GOOD,
REFLECTING CONVERSATIONS IN THE
UPCOMING YEAR THAT REFLECT THE
TRUE CHARACTER OF SEATTLE'S
NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WE EMBARK TO
KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT CHANGES
COMMUNITY MAY DESIRE.
MAJOR UPDATES WHICH REWILL WORK
ANDRESING NEXT YEAR TO CREATE
POLICIES FOR REALLY GETTING AT
THE ROOT OF EXCLUSIONARY
ZONING, THAT IS STILL MAKING A
MARK AND OUR LAND USE AND
ZONING POLICIES IN THE CITY.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF US.
AS I AM EXCITED, I ALSO WANT TO
LOOK UP WHAT COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN HAS NOTED, AND WHAT
CENTRAL STAFF HAS NOTED.
THIS WILL NOT UPDATE THE ZONING
ITSELF.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD A MORE
ENCOURAGING ZONING POLICY, AS
WE WORK THROUGH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MAJOR
UPDATES THROUGHOUT 2022 TO
CONSIDER ANY POLICY CHANGES IN
THE YEAR 2023.
SO THE LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF
US REALLY CONTAINS A TECHNICAL
CHANGE, RECOGNIZING THE TERM,
SINGLE FAMILY, USED IN
SEATTLE'S PLANNING LANGUAGE IS
A MISNOMER, AS I SAID.
IT HAS A LEGACY, AND
EXCLUSIONARY ZONING PRACTICES,
AND WE AS A CITY ARE CONCLUSIVE
TO A MORE ACTIVE POLICY NAME.
WE HAVE PROPOSED AN ADOPTED IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE
MORE INCLUSIVE ACCURATE NAME,
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL,
RECOGNIZING THAT NEIGHBORHOODS
ARE ALREADY HOME TO DIVERSE
HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE
THE INCREASINGLY RESTRICTIVE
ZONING POLICIES WENT INTO
PLACE.
IT INCLUDES HOUSING SMACK
BUSINESSES, PARKS, TREES,
SCHOOLS, AND SERVICES, AS WELL
AS DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES THAT
INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT NOT
ONLY SINGLE FAMILY WITHIN THOSE
DESIGNATIONS.
SO THIS LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF
US HELPS TO REFLECT THE REALITY
THAT SINGLE FAMILY AS A NAME
DOESN'T REFLECT THE CURRENT
MAKEUP OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND AGAIN I JUST HAVE TO
MENTION THE FOUR STORY
BROWNSTONE THAT I USED TO LIVE
IN ON QUEEN ANNE THAT HAD BEEN
BASICALLY AFFECTIVELY ZONED
INTO A SINGLE FAMILY AREA, BUT
ALL AROUND ME, WERE SINGLE
FAMILY HOMES AS WELL AS
DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES AND
SMALL APARTMENT BUILDINGS LIKE
MINE, AND WE WANT TO ACTUALLY
HAVE A NAME THAT'S TRULY
REFLECTIVE.
SO IT IS MORE ACCURATELY
REFLECTING A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE
I LIVED IN, AND SO MANY ACROSS
THE CITY.
FURTHER FROM A PURELY TECHNICAL
PERSPECTIVE, SINGLE FAMILY HAS
BEEN A MISNOMER SINCE 1994.
SINCE 1994 WHEN THEY ADDED
LEGISLATION THE EXCESSIVE
DWELLING UNIT LEGISLATION WENT
INTO EFFECT, WHICH ALLOWED MORE
THAN ONE HOUSEHOLD TO LIVE ON A
SINGLE PARCEL, WE HAVE BEEN
OPERATING WITH A MISNOMER ON
THE BOOKS SINCE 1994.
SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY
TO MAKE THAT TECHNICAL CHANGE,
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL
THE COUNCIL, AND COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN AS WELL, AND
COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS ON YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE, ALONG
WITH MY STAFF, AARON HOUSE, WHO
HAS BEEN THE DRIVING FORCE IN
OUR OFFICE FOR COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, AND SOME OF THE
TECHNICAL CHANGE WITH YOU LISH,
SO I THANK YOU LISH FOR ALL OF
YOUR WORK ON THIS.
AND REPRESENTATIVE MACKRY, AND
REPRESENTATIVE CHALK, IN
THINKING THROUGH HOW WE CREATE
CREATE MORE INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE
FOR OUR ZONING CONVERSATIONS.
I WANT TO THANK THEM ALONG WITH
THE SEATTLE SOUTH SIDE CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE SIERRA CLUB OF
SEATTLE, THE AIA CHAPTER, AND
THE SHARE OF CITIES ALONG WITH
350 SEATTLE, BECAUSE WHEN WE
CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
AN INCLUSIVE SEATTLE FURTHER
PEOPLE GET PUSHED OUT OF THE
CITY, FURTHER PEOPLE ARE COMING
IN, AND FEWER TREES AND
FARMLANDS AND WETLANDS ARE
ENCROACHED UPON, SO LOOKING
FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS
THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR,
THROUGHOUT 2022, AND THEN TO
DEVELOP POLICY WITH YOU ALL IN
2023.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER MOSS
MOSS CADO.
MOSQUEDA.
I WILL NOTE THAT CALIFORNIA HAS
DONE AWAY WITH ZONES.
AS BY CONTEXT, I KNOW IT'S
GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRIES, AND IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RETAIN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, AND
RETAIN THE WAY THAT OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK, FEEL, AND
SHAPE, WHILE WE ARE ABLE TO
BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO
REMOVE TO RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF
120214.
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN MOVED
AND SECONDED TO RECOMMEND
PASSAGE OF COUNCIL BILL 120214.
WOULD THE PLEASE CALL THE ROLE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ?
>> AYE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS.
>> YES.
>> FIVE IN FAVOR, NO OPPOSED.
>> THIS LEGISLATION CARRIES.
THIS WILL BE BEFORE THE HOUSE
FOR A FINAL VOTE.
OUR FIFTH ITEM IS 120325 FOR
PROTECTIONS FOR 18th AVENUE
NORTH.
PLEASE READ THE TITLE INTO
RECORD.
>> COUNCIL BILL 120235, A
ORDINANCE FOR HISTORIC PRESS
RATION, THE LANDMARK
DESIGNATION BY THE LANDMARK'S
PRESERVATION BOARD.
>> THANK YOU, AS I TOOK A SIP
OF MY WATER, WE'RE JOINED BY
THIS BRIEFING TODAY FROM AARON
DOUGHERTY, AS WELL AS THE OWNER
OF THIS LAND MARK.
WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES AND PLEASE TAKE IT
AWAY.
>> THANK YOU, ERIN DOUGHERTY
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> THANK YOU, AMY HIDOPIAN.
MY MOTHER IS THE OWNER OF THE
PROPERTY.
>> THANK YOU.
SO CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN?
>> YES, WE CAN.
>> SO THIS ORDINANCE IS TO
CODIFY THE CONTROLS AND
INCENTIVE AGREEMENT THAT WAS
SIGNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER
AND THE CITY HISTORIC
PRESERVATION OFFICER.
THE LANDMARK NOMINATION WAS
SUBMITTED BY THE OWNER, SUE
PERRY.
SO -- THERE WE GO.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE
PRESENTATION, THE SIX
DESIGNATION STANDARDS THAT THE
BOARD MEMBERS CONSIDER, AND WE
CAN COME BACK TO THESE AS
REFERENCE, IN ADDITION TO
CHOOSING AT LEAST ONE, THEY
NEED TO DETERMINE THAT THE
PROPERTY POSSESSES INTEGRITY,
OR ABILITY TO CONVEY ITS
SIGNIFICANCE.
SO THIS IS THE IMMACULATE
CONCEPTION HOUSE.
WE SEE IT LOCATED HERE, PLEASE
NOTE ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE
IMMACULATE CONCEPTION CHURCH
JUST A FEW BLOCKS TO THE EAST.
SO THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED
IN 2021, THEY CHOSE STANDARDS
C, D, AND E, SO THEY RECOGNIZE
C, IT'S CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE
TO THE CITY, D, ITS
ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
SO THE BOARD DESIGNATED THE
EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR AMY
THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON THAT.
SO JUST BRIEFLY, THIS VERY
STORIED PROPERTY IS AN EXAMPLE
OF NEOCLASSICAL RESIDENTIAL
ARCHITECTURE.
HE WAS A LEADING THEATER
DESIGNER AT THE TURN OF THE
20th CENTURY.
A FEW OF HIS LOCAL BUILDINGS
HAVE SURVIVED, BUT THE MOORE
THEATER AND HOTEL IS FAMILIAR
TO MOST FOLKS, AND THIS IS A
CITY LANDMARK.
THE ORIGINAL OWNER WAS HOUSE
WAS THOMAS CONSIDINE.
THE SECOND WERE THE COENS.
THEY SOLD THE PROPERTY TO THE
IMMACULATE CHURCH IN 1919 AND
IT WAS EXPANDED AND CONVERTED
INTO THEIR CONVERT.
THE CHURCH IS LOCATED NEARBY AT
820 18th AVENUE AND IS ALSO A
DESIGNATED CITY LANDMARK.
THE COUNCIL WAS HOME TO 19 NUNS
WHO TAUGHT AT THE IMMACULATE
CONCEPTION SCHOOL.
IN ADDITION TO THEIR SLEEPING
QUARTERS, THE HOUSE HAD A
KITCHEN, LAUNDRY, COMMUNAL
GATHERING SPACES, A CHAPEL, AND
MUSIC CLASSROOMS.
THE SISTERS LEGACY IS FONDLY
REMEMBERED BY FORMER STUDENTS
WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED
TO THE NOMINATION AND IT IS
KNOWN FOR ITS SIGNIFICANCE,
SPECIFICALLY TO THE FILIPINO
AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
THE CHURCH SOLD THE PROPERTY TO
ANTHONY VENTURA, AND NORMAN
GLASSMAN IN 1978 AND THEY
UNDERTOOK SIGNIFICANT
RESTORATION OF THE PROPERTY,
AND CONVERTED INTO FOUR
SEPARATE UNITS.
THE HOUSE REMAINS THE FORMER
HOME OF PAINTER SUE PERRY.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND BOUGHT THE
PROPERTY IN 1988, AND HAVE
RETAINED THE EFFORTS AND
STEWARDSHIP.
THAT'S IT.
>> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU, ERIN.
AMY, ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE
TO SHARE?
>> NO.
JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY
WHO KNOWS THE CENTRAL DISTRICT
AND THIS SECTION OF IT IS WELL
AWARE THAT IT'S UNDERGOING A
BREATHTAKING CHANGES IN A VERY
RAPID WAY, AND I HAVE NO
OBJECTION TO DENSITY AND MAKING
PROPERTIES ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE AS WE SEEK
TO AVOID HOMELESSNESS IN OUR
CITY.
BUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF
PROPERTY HAS HISTORY THAT IS
WORTH PRESERVING.
YES, IT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED
INTO A FOURPLEX, SO THERE ARE
FOUR UNITS IN THIS BUILDING,
THAT WAS DONE LONG AGO.
AND I THINK IS NOT INCONSISTENT
WITH NAMING IT AS A PROTECTED
PROPERTY.
BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO
PRESERVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE
HISTORIC NATURE.
CENTRAL DISTRICT AS THE BOXES
RISE AROUND US.
THANK YOU.
>> WELL SAID, AMY.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT YOUR
NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR, THERE ARE
FOUR UNITS ON THAT PARCEL, AND
THEY DON'T RETAIN THE OLD
CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU HAVE FOUR UNITS IN YOUR
HOME, AND YOU RETAIN THE
CHARACTER OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JUST HIGHLIGHT THIS AS THE
IMPORTANCE OF FOURPLEXES AND
QUADS, ANYWAYS, I'LL LET IT GO.
I JUST THINK THAT THE VISUAL
COMPARISON OF AMY'S NEIGHBORS
TO HER HOME IS VERY
ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE
CONVERSATION WE WERE JUST
HAVING ABOUT THE QUADS,
DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, HOW YOU
CAN MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF
YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ADD THE
PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT YOU NEED TO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT JIMI
HENDRIX MAY HAVE PRACTICED
HERE, IS THAT CORRECT, AMY?
>> YEAH, THERE WERE SOME YEARS
WHEN THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY
VACANT BECAUSE LARGELY OF THE
RED LINING AND PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
HAVE TAKEN IT UP COULD NOT GET
A LOAN.
AFTER THE CHURCH DECIDED TO
SELL, AND REMOVE THE NUNS THEY
COULDN'T SELL BECAUSE NOBODY
COULD GET A LOAN IN THE CENTRAL
DISTRICT.
SO IT WAS VACANT.
PEOPLE ROLLER SKATED IN IT.
PEOPLE HAD BAND PRACTICES IN
IT.
IT WAS QUITE A LIVELY ABANDONED
SPOT FOR A WHILE.
THAT'S PART OF THE HISTORY OF
THE BUILDING.
>> WOW.
CAN YOU YOU EXPAND ON THAT A
LITTLE BIT MORE?
CAN YOU SHARE HOW YOUR PROPERTY
WAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY OUR
HISTORY OF RED LINING?
>> WELL, I MEAN, AS WE KNOW THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT WAS THE TARGET
OF EFFORTS TO RESTRICT ACCESS
TO HOME OWNERSHIP BY BLACK AND
BROWN PEOPLE.
THE BANKS RESTRICTED LOANS TO
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND IN THIS
PARTICULAR AREA IT WAS VERY
DIFFICULT THEN TO GET A LOAN.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT
WITH US.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR AND YOUR
MOTHER'S EFFORTS IN
PRESERVATION OF THIS PROPERTY.
FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING, I
DO GO TAKE A LOOK AT GOOGLE
MAPS.
THAT STREET VIEW.
YOU CAN HAVE FOUR FAMILIES
LIVING IN AMY'S HOUSE, OR IN
THE BOXES NEXT DOOR.
I'M ALL FOR DENSITY, AND
THERE'S GOOD WAYS OF DOING
DENSITY, AND THIS IS ONE OF
THEM.
>> COUNCILMEMBER.
>> YES, ERIN, PLEASE.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, JUST
TO FOLLOW UP ON THE PROPERTY, I
THINK THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING
IS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF
THIS HOME.
THAT WAS, AMY, CORRECT ME IF
I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT
HAD BEEN THE HOME OF JAZZ
LEGEND VERNON POPS BEAUFORD.
AND IT'S THE VERNON FAMILY WHO
HAS SHARED THE HISTORY AND
RECOLLECTIONS OF JIMI HENDRIX
PLAYING THERE, AND KIDS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ROLLER SKATING IN
THE CONVENT.
>> AND THERE IT IS.
THIS WAS THE HOUSE THAT WAS
TORN DOWN, AND LET'S SEE IF I
CAN FIND A PICTURE OF WHAT IS
CURRENTLY THERE, I MAY NOT BE
ABLE TO QUICKLY IN MY SLIDE
DECK WE PUT TOGETHER MANY, MANY
SLIDES FOR THIS NOMINATION.
HERE'S CURRENTLY THE BOX THAT'S
NEXT DOOR.
>> SO AGAIN, I'M ALL FOR
DENSITY.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT BY
TEARING DOWN THAT ONE HOUSE, WE
PUT IN FOUR HOMES, WHICH IS
GOOD.
DENSITY IS GOOD.
IT'S SAD THAT WE LOST A
HISTORIC HOME LIKE THAT, AND
JUST NOTING THAT WE CAN
PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE CREATING
DENSITY BY DOING THINGS.
>> AND WE DISPLACED A FAMILY
THAT HISTORICALLY WAS IN THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT FOR MANY
GENERATIONS.
A BLACK FAMILY.
AND THE FOUR BOXES NEXT DOOR
WERE SO EXPENSIVE THEY CAN NOW
ONLY BE OCCUPIED BY TECH PEOPLE
WHO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
>> WITH THAT COUNCILMEMBER PAID
PEDERSEN, I SEE YOU HAVE A
COMMENT.
>> I JUST WANT TODAY THANK AMY
FOR MENTIONING THAT IS ONE OF
THE KEY CHALLENGES WE FACE AS
WE WANT TO INCREASE DENSITY,
AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT
DISPLACING, AND MAKE SURE
THERE'S AFFORDABILITY IN THOSE
NEW UNITS SO THAT, SO IT'S NOT
JUST FOR HIRING PEOPLE.
SO THANK YOU FOR JUST PROVIDING
THAT ANECDOTE.
>> SINCE I BROUGHT UP WHERE I
USED TO LIVE, LET ME BRING UP
WHERE I CURRENTLY LIVE.
I LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE BOXES.
I LIVE IN ONE OF FOUR
TOWNHOUSES ON A PIECE OF
PROPERTY THAT USED TO HAVE JUST
ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE A BOTH
AND.
I DON'T WANT THIS CONVERSATION
TO TRICKLE INTO A DISCUSSION
WHERE WE THINK THAT ALL HOMES
THAT RESEMBLE TOWNHOUSES ARE A
ONE SIZE FITS ALL, AS
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN SAID.
I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THE
WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH
THE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS BEEN
TO PRIORITIZE BUILDING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, COUPLED
WITH A COMMUNITY PREFERENCE
POLICY, AND AFFIRMATIVE
MARKETING POLICY.
WHEN YOU COUPLE DEVELOPMENT
WITH AFFORDABLE, EXCUSE ME,
WHEN YOU COUPLE DEVELOPMENT
PERIOD WITH COMMUNITY
PREFERENCE AND AFFIRMATIVE
MARKETING, YOU CAN MAKE SURE
THAT FOLKS WHO HAVE THE HIGHEST
RISK OF DISPLACEMENT,
ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE THE
HIGHEST RISK OF DISPLACEMENT,
THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY,
SPECIFICALLY THAT HAVE THE
LEGACY OF BEING THE RECIPIENT
OF DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES, WE
CAN ADDRESS NOT ONLY
DISPLACEMENT, BUT HELP TO RIGHT
THOSE HISTORIC WRONGS, AND JUST
DON'T WANT TO HAVE THOSE
BUILDINGS OR THAT TYPE OF
BUILDING BE REPRESENTATIVE OF
THE DISPLACEMENT THAT WE ALL
ARE COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING.
AND LOOK FORWARD TO ADDRESSING
THIS LEGISLATION, BUT JUST FELT
IT WAS IMPORTANT TO JUXTAPOSE
WITH WHERE I USED TO LIVE WITH
WHERE I CURRENTLY LIVE AND THE
REASON I WAS ABLE TO BUY IT,
BUYING A PLACE IS OUT OF REACH
IN MOST OF SEATTLE, BEING ABLE
TO PURCHASE A PLACE THAT WAS
FINALLY MADE AVAILABLE BECAUSE
OF THE DENSITY FOR CREATING
FOUR HOUSING UNITS WHERE ONE
USED TO STAND, I THINK IS A
GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE CAN
CREATE DENSITY, AND
INCLUSIVETY, AND WE HAVE TO
COUPLE THAT WITH ANTI-
DISPLACEMENT STRATEGIES, WHICH
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WITH THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT, FROM
EARLIER THIS SUMMER THAT MR.
CHAIR YOU HAD IN YOUR COMMITTEE
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU ALL ON THIS APPROACH.
>> VERY WELL SAID COUNCILMEMBER
MOSQUEDA.
VERY WELL SAID.
COLLEAGUES ANY MORE QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE MOVE TO A VOTE?
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND P PASSAGE,
IS THERE A SECOND?
>> C SECOND.
>> THANK YOU, WILL THE CLERK
PLEASE COUNT THE ROLE?
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN?
>> YES.
>> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ,.
>> AYE.
>> ALL IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED.
>> THE LEGISLATION CARRIES, IT
WILL MOVE BEFORE COUNSEL FOR A
FINAL VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YEAH, SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU
BEHIND THERE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK
YOU AS WELL.
IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE AMY,
PREFER, IT'S GOING TO SEE YOU
ERIN, AND I NOW HOW MUCH YOU
HAVE DONE ON PUBLIC HOUSING
ISSUES, NOT JUST HOUSING, BUT
CULTURAL SPACE AND SOCIAL
COHESION OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S ALL PUBLIC HEALTH.
SO I FEEL THIS DOVE TAILS
NICELY WITH THE WORK YOU DO IN
YOUR DAY JOB.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS, AND
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU, I'M ACTUALLY
TEACHING A CLASS ON
HOMELESSNESS.
I'VE GOT 45 STUDENTS SIGNED UP.
PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED.
>> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> THANKS, EVERYONE.
SORRY FOR BEING, JUMPING AHEAD
TOO QUICKLY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT NICE SEGWAY.
OUR SIXTH AND FINAL ITEM OF
BUSINESS TODAY IS A QUARTERLY
REPORT ON TREE PROTECTION WORK.
WILL YOU PLEASE READ INTO
RECORD.
>> SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS
AND OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY
AND ENVIRONMENT QUARTERLY TREE
REPORT.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST AS BIWAY OF BACKGROUND IN
2014, SHORTLY BEFORE I TOOK
OFFICE, I WORKED TO PASS
RESOLUTION 30912, WHICH WORKED
FOR THE TREE PROTECTIONS AND
REQUIRED TO PRESENT TO THIS
COMMITTEE QUARTERLY ON THEIR
PROGRESS.
THIS IS WHAT THAT REPORT IS, AS
WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, I
ASKED FOR SDCI FOR THE
COMMITMENT.
I ASKED THE SDCI FOR THE
COMMITMENT TO ISSUING SEPA ON
NEW TREE COMMITMENTS.
THAT TIME HAS GONE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A
COMMITMENT TO ISSUING SEPA ON
TREE PROTECTIONS BEFORE THE END
OF THIS YEAR, RAPIDLY
APPROACHING.
TODAY, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ENSURE THAT THIS TIMELINE
STICKS THAT WE DON'T SLIP
AGAIN.
ANYONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED THIS
CONVERSATION CLOSELY KNOWS THAT
I HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED WITH
THE TIMELINE SO FAR.
MY HOPE IS THAT WE RECEIVE
LEGISLATION IN THE SEPA REPORT
THIS YEAR, SO THAT IN 2022, THE
CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE ACTION ON
STRONGER TREE PROTECTION
ORDINANCES.
WE'RE JOINED BY PRESENTERS FROM
SDCI, WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE
INTRODUCE YOURSELVES?
DIRECTOR, I SEE YOU'RE OFF
MOOT. I
SEE CHANDRA HERE AS WELL.
>> SHOULD WE GO AHEAD?
>> YES, INTRODUCE YOURSELVES,
AND TAKE AWAY THE PRESENTATION,
IF YOU DO HAVE SLIDES, PLEASE
SHARE YOUR SCREEN.
THANK YOU.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> SDCI.
>> HI, NATHAN CARLSON, DIRECTOR
SDCI.
>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING.
SDCI AND OSC ARE HAPPY TO
PROVIDE THIS BRIEFING TO YOU
TODAY.
CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN OKAY?
>> YES.
>> I'M NOT HAVING THE ABILITY
TO SCROLL.
>> SORRY, CHANDA, THE
QUESTIONING ABOUT?
>> I'M NOT ABLE TO ADVANCE THE
SLIDE.
>> DO YOU HAVE THIS
PRESENTATION READY?
>> I DO, AND I CAN PULL IT UP
RIGHT NOW.
>> GREAT.
LET'S TAKE CARE OF THAT.
MR. AHN I CAN SEE THAT.
MAYBE WE'LL ZOOM IN ONE MORE
TIME.
THAT LOOKS GREAT.
WONDERFUL.
CHANDA, PLEASE, TAKE IT AWAY.
>> THANK YOU.
I CAN'T SEE HOW TO SCROLL HERE
FOR SOME REASON.
>> MR. AHN WILL ADVANCE FOR
YOU.
JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE, LAST
SLIDE, HOWEVER YOU WANT.
>> GREAT.
>> THANK YOU, CHANDA.
>> FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION,
I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY MENTION THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE CITYWIDEE.
AND SOME OF THE OUTLOOK THE
NEXT STRATEGIES FOR THIS WORK.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
THE CITYWIDE URBAN FORESTRY
STRATEGY IS A HOLISTIC STRATEGY
THAT INCLUDES MANY PARTNERS
GUIDING DOCUMENTS, PLANNING
DOCUMENTS, POLICIES.
THESE ALL TOGETHER FRAMED AND
GUIDE OUR WORK.
GOALS AND POLICIES TOGETHER
WITH FEEDBACK AND INPUT PROVIDE
US GUIDANCE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO SDCI AND OSD AND ITS
PARTNERS HAVE BEEN WORKING TO
IMPROVE TREE PROTECTIONS AN
EXPLORE STRATEGIES TO INCREASE
TREE PROTECTIONS AS OUTLINED IN
RESOLUTION 31902.
COUNCIL REQUESTED TO EXPLORE
THE FOLLOWING STRATEGIES TO
EXPAND THE EXCEPTIONAL TREE
DEFINITION AND RETAIN
EXCEPTIONAL TREE DEFINITIONS.
CREATE A SIGNIFICANT TREE
REMOVAL PERMIT.
REQUIRE REPLACEMENT FOR
SIGNIFICANT TREE REMOVAL.
SIMPLIFY THE TREE PLANTING AND
REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS.
MAINTAIN EXISTING TREE REMOVAL
LIMITS.
EXPLORE A PAYMENT IN LIEU
OPTION FOR PAYMENT, AND
CONTINUE TO TRACK TREE REMOVALS
AND REPLACEMENT.
THROUGH OCTOBER, SDCI AND OSC
WORKED TO OBTAIN FEEDBACK ON
STRATEGIES LISTED IN RESOLUTION
31902 FROM BI POC AND OTHER
COMMUTERS.
THAT FEEDBACK HELPED US
IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND
COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER
INTEREST AND PARITIES THAT WILL
HELP SHAPE AND FORM OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS.
TO DO THIS, WE USED A TWO PRONG
APPROACH TO THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
THE FIRST APPROACH WAS TO
INCLUDE AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY
LIAISONS PROGRAM TO CONDUCT A
PROPERLIY APPROPRIATE
ENGAGEMENT TO PROVIDE LOW
INCOME AND LOW CANOPY
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE OTHER FOCUSED ON INPUT
THROUGH ONLINE LISTENING
SESSIONS.
IN ORDER TO ALLOW TIME FOR MORE
INCLUSIVE ENGAGEMENT, SDI AND
OSD CHOSE TO CONDUCT TWO FORMS.
THIS WORK TOOK PLACE BETWEEN
JULY AND OCTOBER.
A COMBINED SUMMARY REPORT OF
THOSE RESULTS.
THAT REPORT WAS POSTED ON THE
SDCI WEBSITE IN NOVEMBER.
THIS SHOWS THE SUMMARY OF THE
FEEDBACK OF THE TOPICS THAT
WERE BASED TO THE GROUPS, WHICH
WERE BASED ON THE STRATEGIES IN
THE RESOLUTION.
ON THE TOPIC OF EXCEPTIONAL
TREE PROTECTIONS THERE WAS
BROAD SUPPORT FOR EXPANDING
MORE TREES.
THERE WAS ALSO A CAUTION BY
MANY OF THE GROUPS THAT THEY
DID NOT WANT TO SEE A ONE SIZE
FITS ALL APPROACH.
THEY WANTED INPUT INCORPORATED
REFLECTING THAT COMMENT.
THERE IS SPLIT SUPPORT FOR
CREATING A CATEGORY FOR
SIGNIFICANT TREES AT THE TIME
IN BOTH THE LISTENING SESSIONS
AND ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY GROUP
WORK.
MANY PEOPLE FELT THAT THERE WAS
MAYBE NOT A NEED FOR A
CATEGORY, BUT THEY ALSO WERE
SPLIT ON PROTECTING EXCEPTIONAL
TREES.
THEY WANTED THIS DEFINITION TO
BE EXPANDED FURTHER, AND THEN
SOME EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT IT
MIGHT CREATE A BURDEN ON
HOMEOWNERS IF THIS NEW CATEGORY
OF LARGER TREES IS REGULATED.
WHILE MANY SUPPORTED INCREASING
TREE PROTECTIONS BEYOND THE
EXCEPTIONAL TREE CATEGORY.
SO THE RESOLUTION CALLS FOR THE
EXPLORING OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF
A PERMIT SYSTEM FOR TREES
OUTSIDE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS WAS ALSO DISCUSSED WITH
THE GROUPS, AND THERE WAS NOT
SUPPORT FOR CREATING A NEW TREE
REMOVAL PERMIT IN THIS
DISCUSSION.
THERE WAS A VARIETY OF CONCERNS
AND SO THIS ONE RECEIVED THE
LEAST AMOUNT OF SUPPORT OF THE
TOPICS DISCUSSED.
AMONG THE GROUPS, THE BI POC
GROUPS AND ONLINE LISTENING
SESSIONS THERE WAS WIDE SUPPORT
ACROSS ALL THE GROUPS FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF A PAYMENT IN
LIEU OPTION, AND ALSO THE TREE
SERVICE PROVIDER LEGISLAION.
LASTLY THERE IS A STRONG
SUPPORT EXPRESSED FOR UPDATING
AND INCREASING ENFORCEMENT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> SORRY, CHANDA, I HAD SOME
QUESTIONS ON SLIDE FIVE.
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SPLIT
SUPPORT AND LACK OF SUPPORT FOR
SIGNIFICANT TREE DEFINITIONS
AND THE SIMPLE PERMIT.
CAN YOU SHARE WHAT, DO WE KNOW
WHAT MOTIVATED THESE CONCERNS?
I WOULD NOTE THAT WE SEE STRONG
SUPPORT FOR UPDATING
ENFORCEMENT, AND PROTECTING
EXCEPTIONAL TREES AND BASED ON
MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S BEEN
CHALLENGING TO ENFORCE THE
CURRENT TREE PROTECTIONS
WITHOUT A REQUIREMENT FOR A
PERMIT TO REMOVE A TREE.
I CAN IMAGINE THAT SENTIMENT
AROUND PERMITS WOULD CHANGE.
SO I GUESS WITH THAT, I'LL JUST
BRING IT BACK.
DO WE KNOW WHAT MOTIVATED THESE
CONCERNS?
>> SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE
RECEIVED FROM BI POC
COMMUNITIES WAS THAT THEY DID
NOT FEEL THAT THEY WANTED MORE
GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS.
SO THAT WAS A GENERAL
SENTIMENT.
THEN OTHER GROUPS WERE SPLIT
ON, THEY WANTED INCREASED
PROTECTIONS FOR EXCEPTIONAL
TREES.
AND THERE WAS A SPLIT ON WHERE
THAT THRESHOLD WOULD LIE.
>> OKAY.
BUT AS FAR AS, AND IF WE NEED
TO FOLLOW UP LATER, I GUESS
THIS IS JUST INFORMATION THAT
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MORE
IN A DETAILED FASHION.
JUST THE MOTIVATIONS BEHIND
THIS.
THIS IS GOOD FOR NOW, LET'S
KEEP MOVING FORWARD, AND I'M
CIRCLE BACK AFTER COMMITTEE.
>> SO SDCI AND OSC AND ITS
PARTNERS HAVE BEEN WORKING TO
EXPRESS STRATEGIES TO FURTHER
PROTECT TREES AS OUTLINED AND
FEEDBACK HAS BEEN HELPING TO
FORM AND SHAPE OUR EFFORTS OVER
THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
SO WE'VE LEARNED A FEW THINGS
AND WE'RE STRIVING FOR
INCREASED TREE PROTECTIONS.
IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES IN THE
PRESENTATION TODAY, I WILL
COVER THESE FIVE KEY STRATEGIES
THAT TOGETHER WE'RE EXPLORING
TO GET THERE.
SO THIS FIRST ONE HERE IS A
TREE SERVICE PROVIDER
REGISTRATION, AND SERVICE
PROVIDER AND HOMEOWNER SELF-
REPORTING.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE EXPANGS
OF THE DEFINITION OF
EXCEPTIONAL TREE.
AND THE THIRD IS THE DEFINING
OF A SIGNIFICANT TREE HE OF AS
A NEW CATEGORY, AND ALSO ADDING
REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
SIGNIFICANT TREES.
FOURTH IS TO ALLOW FOR A
PAYMENT AND NEW OPTION.
AND LASTLY WE WOULD LIKE TO
SIMPLIFY PROCESSES AND UPDATE
ENFORCEMENT.
SO THIS FIRST STRATEGY BEING
EXPLORED IS THE TREE SERVICE
PROVIDER REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
THIS COULD INCREASE THE QUALITY
OF WORK AND ADDS FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY.
SDCI IS LOOKING FOR BUSINESS
PRACTICES AND I.T.
SUPPORT FOR A NEW PROGRAM WHICH
WOULD INCLUDE FOR THE NEW
PROGRAM.
THE FIRST WOULD HAVE TREE RISK
QUALIFICATIONS, THERE ALSO
COULD BE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
REQUIREMENT, WHICH WOULD BE AN
ONLINE SUBMENTAL TO LET
NEIGHBORS KNOW ABOUT TREE
REMOVELES, BEFORE TREES ARE
REMOVED.
A TOOL COULD BE LINKED TO AN
EXISTING TREE TRACKING SYSTEM.
THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
HELP CLOSE THE INFORMATION DATA
GAP THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING
ABOUT WHEN TREES ARE REMOVED
OUTSIDE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS GIS TOOL COULD TRACK
TREE REMOVAL NOT ONLY BY
HOMEOWNERS BUT ALSO REGISTERED
TREE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
THE SECOND STRATEGY BEING
EXEXPLORED IS TO EXPAND THE
DEFINITION OF EXCEPTIONAL TREES
BY LOWERING THE THRESHOLD, OF
WHAT IS NOW 30 INCHES IN
DIAMETER AT STANDARD HEIGHT
DOWN TO 24 INCHES IN STANDARD
HEIGHT.
ADDING PROTECTIONS FOR TREE
GROVES AND HERITAGE TREES WHILE
MAINTAINING DEFINITIONS FOR
SMALL EXESIONAL TREES.
TO BREAK THIS DOWN FURTHER,
PART OF THE STRATEGY COULD BE
NOT ONLY TO LOWER THAT
THRESHOLD DOWN TO INCLUDE
EXCEPTIONAL TREES, BUT WOULD
ALSO INCLUDE ALL THE
EXCEPTIONAL TREES IN OUR 2008
EXPECTATIONAL TREE RULE.
SOME OF WHICH DO NOT FALL IN
THAT 30 TO 24-INCH RANGE.
SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE
SMALLER, LIKE 6 AND 9 INCHES IN
DIAMETER.
SOME OF THESE SMALLER
EXCEPTIONAL TREES HAVE SEVERAL
ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS AND
BENEFITS THAT WE VALUE.
AND WE WANT TO PROTECT AS WE
LOOK AT EXPANDING THE
PROTECTIONS FOR EXCEPTIONAL
TREES.
SOME OF THESE SMALLER DIAMETER
TREES COULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT
EXPANDED DEFINITION, EVEN
THOUGH THEY ARE NOT LARGER TREE
SPECIES.
SO TREE SPECIES THAT WOULD BE
REMOVED FROM THE LIST ARE
INVASIVE TREE SPECIES.
PROBABLY JUST A VERY SMALL
NUMBER.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO ENSURE THAT
WE'RE NOT ENCOURAGING PLANTING
OF TREE SPECIES THAT ARE LISTED
ON KING COUNTY, THE MOST
PUBLISHED LIST OF INVASIVE TREE
SPECIES IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE NOT INCLUDING TREE
SPECIES THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO
THE HEALTH OF OUR TREE CANOPY.
THE THIRD STRATEGY BEING
EXPLORED IS TO DEFINE
SIGNIFICANT TREES AS ANY TREE
THAT HAS A DIAMETER OR STANDARD
HEIGHT OF 6 INCHES OR GREATER
THAT IS NOT DEFINED AS AN
EXCEPTIONAL TREE.
THE CURRENT TREE CODE DOES NOT
PROVIDE A DEFINITION OR ANY
REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
SIGNIFICANT TREES.
THE STRATEGY COULD ADD A NEW
CODE REQUIREMENT THAT PLAN
REVIEWERS WOULD CONSIDER WAYS
TO PROTECT THIS NEW CATEGORY OF
TREES, CLARIFYING THAT TREES IN
NONDEVELOPMENT AREAS, THOSE ARE
YARDS AND SET BACKS, ARE
PROTECTED.
SO THIS MEANS THAT PLAN
REVIEWERS WOULD CONSULT SDCI
ARBORISTS TO DETERMINE WHICH
TREES HAVE THE GREATEST
ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS AND WHICH
ONES ARE TRUE THE TREES WITH
THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR
PROTECTING AND PRESERVING, AND
THOSE ARE THE TREES THAT WE
COULD REGULATE TO PROTECT.
WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING
REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR
TREES 12 INCHES AND GREATER.
SO THE FOURTH STRATEGY BEING
EXPLORED IS TO ALLOW FOR AN
OPTION OF PAYMENT IN LIEU, WHEN
PAYMENT IS EXPECTED.
CLEARLY INDICATED THERE IS A
LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS POLICY.
WE KNOW IN CERTAIN TIMES LIKE
THE LOW RISE ZONES, THERE'S
JUST NOT ENOUGH PHYSICAL SPACE
ON THE SITE TO PLANT NEW TREES
THAT COULD GROW TO THE
MATURITY, EVEN IN THE ADJACENT
PLANTING STRIPS.
THIS STRATEGY COULD ALSO
PROVIDE FUNDS TO EXISTING TREE
PLANTING PROGRAMS, LIKE THOSE
THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN
AT LEAST TWO OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE
SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION AND THE PARKS
DEPARTMENT TO PLANT THESE NEW
TREES.
IT 0 ALSO INCLUDE A TARGETED
FOCUS TO PLANT NEW TREES IN
MAPPED AREAS WITH LOW CANOPY
COVER, MANY OF WHICH ARE BI POC
COMMUNITIES.
SUCH AS HIGHER RATES OF ASTHMA,
DUE TO LOWER AIR QUALITY.
SO THIS LAST STRATEGY IS ALL
ENCOMPASSING, WE'RE EXPLORING
WAYS TO LOOK AT PENALTIES FOR
ILLEGAL TREE CUTTING AND
REMOVAL.
IT WOULD SUPPORT DATA DRIVEN
DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE TO
MONITOR TREE CANOPY AND PROTECT
TREES AND IN DOING SO IMPROVE
CUSTOMER SERVICE.
AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS WE'RE
WORKING TOWARD THE GOAL TO
ISSUE A DRAFT PROPOSAL WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BY THE END
OF THE YEAR.
SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR BRIEFING.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> IF YOU JUST WANT TO STICK ON
SLIDE 12, THIS IS THE MOST IN-
DEPTH COMPREHENSIVE BILL WE'VE
RECEIVED.
I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN'S WORK
TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO
THIS AFFECT, WHICH I WAS A
HAPPY COSPONSOR TO.
IN DECEMBER, YOU'RE NOTING
DEVELOPING DRAFT
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE DRAFT
LEGISLATION ATTACHED TO CEPA
LATER THIS MONTH, OR, I GUESS,
MAINLY MY QUESTION IS, WILL WE
BE EXPECTING THIS SEPA REVIEW
FROM PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MONTH?
>> YES.
>> GREAT.
THANK YOU.
IT WILL BE MY, HANUKKAH'S OVER,
BUT I CAN STILL GET NEW YEAR'S
PRESENTS.
SO THAT WILL BE MY NEW YEARS
PRESENT.
COLLEAGUES, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN, NICE.
I KNEW IT.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN, TAKE IT
AWAY.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS,
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE, AND I
WANT TO THANK SDCI FOR THE
PRESENTATION.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU AS YOU
CONSIDER THIS SDCI, AS YOU
CNSIDER THIS DRAFT
LEGISLATION, THANK YOU FOR
INCORPORATING, OR PLANNING TO
INCORPORATE THE CONCEPT OF
REGISTERING THE ARBORISTS, OR
TREE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
I DO WANT TO CAUTION ABOUT THE
INLIEU FEE.
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS
THERE.
WE DID HAVE THE CITY OF
PORTLAND APPEAR TO TELL US
ABOUT THEIR IN-LIEU FEE
PROGRAM, AND THEY SAID IT WAS
BASICALLY A FAILURE.
THEY DIDN'T CHARGE ENOUGH
MONEY.
IT WAS EASY FOR THE DEVELOPERS
TO PAY FOR IT.
IF THE LEGISLATION EXPANDS THE
DEFINITION OF EXCEPTIONAL
TREES, AND ADDS SIGNIFICANT
TREES WITH MORE CLARITY, WE DO
APPRECIATE SOME OF THE THINGS
IN THE DRAFT.
IF WE EXPAND THAT, WHICH IS
GOOD, BUT THEN WE HAVE A VERY
LOW HAD IN LIEU FEE IT WOULD
SORT OF CANCEL OUT THAT
BENEFIT.
SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION ABOUT
HOW THE IN LIEU FEE IS APPLIED,
AND HOW MUCH IT IS.
I WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN FAVOR OF
NOT HAVING AN IN LIEU FEE.
AND WE CAN FIND RESOURCES TO
PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES WITHOUT
AN IN LIEU FEE.
I WOULDN'T THAT TO BE THE ONLY
REASON WE'RE DOING THE IN LIEU
FEE.
THE TIMING, THANK YOU, CHAIR
STRAUSS FOR ZEROING IN ON THAT.
DECISION ON SEPA, I WOULD THINK
WE'D ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE
DRAFT LEGISLATION SO THAT WE
COULD THEN SEE WHAT YOU'RE
DECIDING, HOW YOU'RE MAKING THE
SEPA DETERMINATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY,
ARE WE ALSO GOING TO BE GETTING
LEGISLATION THIS MONTH?
>> YES.
>> THAT IS GOOD NEWS.
IN LOOKING AT THE SLIDE, I
WASN'T SURE.
SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
THAT.
APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT THE IN LIEU FEE.
AS YOU SAID, DEVIL'S IN THE
DETAILS.
IF YOU MAKE IT TOO LOW IT
DOESN'T CREATE THE PROGRAMS YOU
NEED.
AND IF YOU MAKE IT TOO HIGH,
PEOPLE AVOID PAYING THE FEE,
AND AVOID THE PERMIT.
AT LEAST, THAT'S THE DISCUSSION
I REMEMBER FROM WHEN YOU HAD
THE FOLKS UP IN PORTLAND, FOR
THAT BRIEF MOMENT WHEN YOU WERE
LAND USE CHAIR IN DECEMBER OF
2019.
THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO
THAT COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER OF
2019.
NOW TWO YEARS AGO.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU SO, MR. CHAIR.
IN THE SPIRIT OF HAVING
ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
IN LIEU FEES, I'M UNFORTUNATELY
GOING TO CONTINUE ON THAT
THREAD JUST REALLY BRIEFLY WITH
A FEW QUESTIONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN JUST
SHOOK LOOSE FROM HIS LINE OF
QUESTIONING.
THE FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE,
AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE
APPROPRIATE FOR LAW AT SOME
FUTURE DATE.
BUT I DO WONDER IF PART OF
HAVING AN IN LIEU FEE STRUCTURE
IS IMPORTANT TO AVOID SOME
POTENTIAL VULNERABILITY OF
IMPLICATING A TAKING
POTENTIALLY, A REGULATORY
TAKING AND PROVIDING
ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO PERFORM,
HENCE AN IN LIEU FEE, AND
WHETHER THAT'S AN OBSTACLE THAT
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, OR
SEEKING TO NAVIGATE IN HOW WE
CRAFT THIS POLICY.
THEN SORT OF IN THAT SAME
SPIRIT, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF
THERE COULD BE A WAY TO
POTENTIALLY DESIGN AN IN LIEU
FEE IN A LAYERED SORT OF WAY,
WHERE A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO
DEMONSTRATE EXHAUSTION OF
ALTERNATIVE METHODS OF
MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF THE
TREE ORDINANCE.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, NOT
PUTTING IN ON-SITE PARKING, AND
MAYBE SOME PROVISION THAT IT
COULD BE WAIVED TO PROTECT
TREES AND FACILITATE A DESIGN
TO ACCOMMODATE THE FULL BULK OF
THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT MAYBE AT
THE EXPENSE OF PARKING.
JUST THROWING OUT SOME OF THOSE
IDEAS TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE
AN ANSWER TO SOME OF THOSE
CONCEPTS NOW, AND CERTAINLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING
ABOUT THAT MORE AS PART OF THIS
POLICY PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
>> GREAT QUESTIONS,
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, I WOULD
SAY, LET'S SAVE THOSE FOR WHEN
WE HAVE A DRAFT FOR US IN EARLY
NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE,
BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION ABOUT IN LIEU FEES
IS ONLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT
CHANDA HAS PRESENTED A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THIS
LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THE PREVIOUS
REPORTS FROM SDCI.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK MOVING
FORWARD.
THE IN LIEU FEE IS GOING TO BE,
AND MANY OF THESE STRATEGIES
ARE GOING TO BE A CONTINUED
CONVERSATION.
I THINK BEFORE WE START
HYPOTHESIZING AS TO WHAT THE
SOLUTIONS, DRAWBACKS OR
BENEFITS ARE, WE SHOULD GET THE
LEGISLATION AND HAVE A CENTRAL
STAFF ANALYSIS TO PROVIDE US IN
PLACE TO MOVE OFF OF.
>> THAT WORKS.
I GUESS, JUST CONSIDER THOSE
COMMENTS ISSUES SPOTTING FOR A
STAFF MEMO THEN.
>> WELL SAID MY FRIEND.
WELL SAID.
>> SO IF CENTRAL STAFF IS
LISTENING, THOSE ARE SOME
THINGS TO MAYBE KICK AROUND IN
THE ANALYSIS OF THE IN LIEU FEE
DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
LEWIS.
COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS?
I KNOW THAT CHANDA WAS ON HER
QUESTIONS, AND THEN CONTACT
INFORMATION SLIDES.
SO PATRICIA BAKER ALSO
CONTRIBUTED TO THIS REPORT, AND
I WANT TO THANK HER AS WELL.
DIRECTOR TOILSON, I SEE YOU'VE
COME OFF MUTE.
>> I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS
TOPIC.
THIS REALLY IS A COMPLEX TOPIC.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD
TO FIND THE BALANCE BETWEEN
ACHIEVING THE CITY'S GOALS, AND
ALSO MEETING OUR CLIMATE CHANGE
GOALS OF WHICH STREET CANOPY IS
AN IMPORTANT PART.
IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
DID ADEQUATE OUTREACH TO A LOT
OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS
ABOUT TREE PROTECTION AND THAT
WE SPENT TIME DOING PROPER
POLICY DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO
FORWARDING THE RECOMMENDATION
PACKAGE AND THE DETERMINATION
TEE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR
PATIENCE.
>> THANK YOU, DIRECTER FOR
KEEPING IT MOVING, ESPECIALLY
THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.
CHANDA, ANY FINAL THOUGHTS?
SEEING NONE AT THIS TIME, I
WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR
BEING HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE
THIS UPDATE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING WITH
YOU IN THE NEW YEAR TO FINALLY
ADOPT THE STRONGER TREE
PROTECTIONS THAT ARE LONG
AWAITED, AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE
GETTING THAT NEW YEARS'
PRESENT.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
WITH THAT, THERE IS NO FURTHER
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.
I'LL JUST MAKE A FEW REMARKS
THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU
COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR TIME ON
THIS COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE LAST LAND USE
COMMITTEE FOR THE YEAR, WITH RE-
ORG HAPPENING IN JANUARY.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE LAND USE
CHAIR.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS
MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT HAS
BEEN A PLEASURE TO BE A GUEST
ON THIS COMMITTEE.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO
STEWARD THIS WORK AS A GUEST.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
HERE WITH ME.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
>> I'M SEEING WAVES, THUMBS UP,
AND THANKS FOR THANKS.
SO WITH THAT, THIS CONCLUDES
THE WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 8th,
2021 MEETING OF THE LAND USE
NEIGHBORHOODS COMMITTEE.
OUR FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
I'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.